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Re: Re: The point, kids.
From: lee.e.rian () census gov
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 22:05:24 -0400
I read the charter, and saw no mention of penalties for off-topic speech.
Read the charter again: It is expected that the list will be largely self-policing, however in special circumstances (eg spamming, misappropriation) then offending members may be removed from the list by the management. eg = exempli gratia = for example In other words, spamming and misappropriation are not the only activities that can get someone removed from the list.
I thought, in addition to its utility, this list represented an ideal (openness), but apparently I was mistaken.
It is an open list. But it's a list devoted to discussing security related issues and morning wood doesn't have that great a record of on-topic posting. Throw in his [her?] knack for posting messages that generate so many off-topic replies and I can see where removing morning wood from the list would be an attractive proposal. But I think that the real problem is with the people that can't find the delete key and/or resist responding with their own off-topic replies. Regards, Lee |---------+--------------------------------------> | | "Paul M. Hirsch" | | | <paul () voltagenoir org> | | | Sent by: | | | full-disclosure-admin@lists| | | .netsys.com | | | | | | | | | 06/12/03 06:01 PM | | | | |---------+-------------------------------------->
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| | | To: Mike Fratto <mfratto () nwc com> | | cc: full-disclosure () lists netsys com | | Subject: [Full-disclosure] Re: The point, kids. |
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On Thu, Jun 12, 2003 at 03:03:29PM -0400, Mike Fratto wrote:
Here is the confusion. The discussion is not about unpopular speech. It's about off-topic speech. Go read the frigging Charter. If you can't abide by the charter, get off the list and then start your own list with your own charter, or no charter, I don't care. Step off the free-speech stump.
I read the charter, and saw no mention of penalties for off-topic speech. My point was that the choice being considered will change the nature of the list, and from my point of view, violates the spirit of this list. My apologies for rambling off into a free speech diatribe. I thought, in addition to its utility, this list represented an ideal (openness), but apparently I was mistaken. -Paul _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
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