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Re: Fw: Re: Odd Behavior - Windows Messenger Service
From: Jay Sulzberger <jays () panix com>
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 13:16:59 -0400 (EDT)
On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 11:21:57 EDT, Michael Gale <michael () bluesuperman com> said:Sure it would be great is Microsoft released secured versions of Windows but then average users like my parents and sales people would require a greater understanding of computers and security in order to use them because they would find all these features they so love to be disabled or blocked.Many people in the security field think forcing people to have enough of a clue to find things to enable them would be a Good Thing. How much random scanning on port 135 would there be if Windows simply prohibited wide-open sharing of C$ and anonymous enumeration of accounts? Yes, people would then have to *think* about who they really wanted to share their data with - which is more work than Redmond has traditionally wanted users to do. However, I am of the opinion that the Redmond model is a false time-saver, because it trades the "5 minutes to figure out how to share only the folder you want with only the other machines you want" with the "days lost when you get hacked by something via a wide-open share".
This is the paradigm case of "first, even most blunt, cost benefit estimate". oo--JS. _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
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- RE: Odd Behavior - Windows Messenger Service, (continued)
- RE: Odd Behavior - Windows Messenger Service Schmehl, Paul L (Jul 17)
- Re: Odd Behavior - Windows Messenger Service Neil McKellar (Jul 17)
- Re: Odd Behavior - Windows Messenger Service Ron DuFresne (Jul 17)
- Re: Odd Behavior - Windows Messenger Service Jay Sulzberger (Jul 17)
- Re: Odd Behavior - Windows Messenger Service morning_wood (Jul 17)
- Re: Odd Behavior - Windows Messenger Service Jay Sulzberger (Jul 17)
- Re: Odd Behavior - Windows Messenger Service gregh (Jul 17)
- Re: Odd Behavior - Windows Messenger Service Neil McKellar (Jul 17)
- RE: Odd Behavior - Windows Messenger Service Schmehl, Paul L (Jul 17)
- Re: Fw: Re: Odd Behavior - Windows Messenger Service Valdis . Kletnieks (Jul 19)
- Re: Fw: Re: Odd Behavior - Windows Messenger Service Jay Sulzberger (Jul 19)