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RE: east coast powergrid / SCADA [OT?]
From: Joshua Thomas <JThomas () poweronemedia com>
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 18:11:29 -0400
It wasn't. Say some luser with an unpatched/compromised laptop connected to the network. *poof* What I have more trouble believing is that a single workstation/controlstation would allow a large enough change to a power plant to cause an effect like this. In an ideal world, doing something like shuting down the whole power station would be like firing a nuke: You need two people with keys, they're too far apart for one person to do it by themself, etc. Just my $.02. Joshua Thomas Network Operations Engineer PowerOne Media, Inc. tel: 518-687-6143 jthomas () poweronemedia com -----Original Message----- From: gml [mailto:gml () phrick net] Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 4:50 PM To: RMcElroy () mbe com; scheidell () secnap net; tetsujin () comcast net Cc: full-disclosure () lists netsys com Subject: RE: [Full-disclosure] east coast powergrid / SCADA [OT?] I can't image that anything really important would be connected to the internet. Then again who knows right. -----Original Message----- From: full-disclosure-admin () lists netsys com [mailto:full-disclosure-admin () lists netsys com] On Behalf Of RMcElroy () mbe com Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 3:41 PM To: scheidell () secnap net; tetsujin () comcast net Cc: full-disclosure () lists netsys com Subject: RE: [Full-disclosure] east coast powergrid / SCADA [OT?] At least on the west coast they do not, I think the requirements of the systems are way out of Microsoft's range. Lot's and Lot's of Unix -----Original Message----- From: Michael Scheidell [mailto:scheidell () secnap net] Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 11:36 AM To: tetsujin Cc: full-disclosure () lists netsys com Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] east coast powergrid / SCADA [OT?]
Paller said it is "highly unlikely" that the process control computers
behind critical infrastructure like power in the United States would run on the Windows operating system.
well, ONTARIO HYDRO does seem to have SOME windoes boxes.. at least here is one that appears to have been infected with slammer: http://www.hackertrap.net/LID.pl?IID=39335068 (Aug 9th through the 12th?) -- Michael Scheidell, CEO SECNAP Network Security, LLC Sales: 866-SECNAPNET / (1-866-732-6276) Main: 561-368-9561 / www.secnap.net Looking for a career in Internet security? http://www.secnap.net/employment/ _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
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