Re: Authorities eye MSBlaster suspect

["Daniel C. Sobral" <dcs () tcoip com br>]

Not to mention that blaming a person for not being bullet proof when the 
murderer pulls the trigger is, well, stupid. Anyone thinking that way is 
in serious denial or in need of a reality check.

Ben Nelson wrote:
> You need to keep in mind that affected != infected.  Many of us admins who
> don't even administrate a single windows box were affected by amount of
> bandwidth consumed by people who were infected.  This thing effectively
> created a denial of service on many networks and any host trying to use
> that network (be it an infected windows box or one of my hundreds of unix
> boxes) was, at the very least, significantly slowed down.
>
> --Ben
>
> On August 29, 10:18 am "morning_wood" <se_cur_ity () hotmail com> wrote:
>
> > if the worm was active in anticipation of a patch that intoduced a new
> > exploit vector and it took advantage of that, is'nt the vendor (
> > microsoft ) to blame then? As well there was plenty of advanced warning
> > on this exploit long before msblast was an issue. It seems to me that it
> > is each admins responsiblity, if they were affected ( infected ) not the
> > coder. if this were the case the LastStage(of)Delerium would be the
> > blamed party for developing and releasing the exploit, but alas.. they
> > are not of USA orgin. SUE LITIGATE BLAME PROCECUTE
> >
> > as long as the general public remains uneducated ( and many Fortune500
> > admins) we will continue
> > to see this type of action against coders for blame, not the people
> > actualy responsible for allowing
> > thier infrastructure to become targets in the first place. im sure this
> > ignorance is a byproduct of
> > the weak mind of most Americans as they are in a constant state to blame
> > other for thier own
> > problems, this can be seen everywhere in todays American society...
> > commonly refered as to the "poor me" syndrome..
> > Q. why did you murder the victim?
> > A. my father never told me he loved me
> > ( real answer - you pulled the triger )
> >
> > Q. why was my network compromised?
> > A. because of someone else
> > ( real answer - you suck at internet )
> >
> >
> > muh 2 bytes,
> > morning_wood
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Charles Ballowe" <hangman-fulldisclosure () steelballs org>
> > To: <full-disclosure () lists netsys com>
> > Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 8:23 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Authorities eye MSBlaster suspect
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Fri, Aug 29, 2003 at 12:14:51PM -0000, 00005702 () no-id com wrote:
> > >
> > > > And this kid is dumb enough be be living in the U.S.A. man, when are
> > > > people going to learn, next we will here that he has been charged
> > > > with every penny the worm caused and will be sentence under the new
> > > > and ever improving Terrorist act.
> > >
> > > Interesting -- the net cost of the worm is actually a net $0.00. For
> > > every penny that a company chalks up as a cost to the worm, some
> > > other company must be chalking up the cost as a profit from the worm.
> > >
> > > -Charlie
> > >
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