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Re: RE: [ISN] DARPA pulls OpenBSD funding


From: Paul Schmehl <pauls () utdallas edu>
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 22:20:45 -0500

Thank you. I'm so sick and tired of hearing the cry of "McCarthyism" from celebrities who have spoken out against the war and are now suffering from boycotts of their products. Get over it. You had the right to say what you want. And we have the right to not buy your stupid records, movies, whatever.

It's *free* speech, *not* speech without consequences. Ask Senator Trent Lott if there is a price for speech. I didn't hear any of the anti-war celebrities complain about that.

--On Friday, April 18, 2003 10:09:45 AM -1000 Jason Coombs <jasonc () science org> wrote:

"In the U.S., today, free speech is just a myth," de Raadt said.

This is an important issue because so many people get it completely
wrong, de Raadt included.

Free speech means the government cannot put you in jail for the things
you say or believe.

It does not mean the government is required to continue to pay you to do
work or fund your projects regardless of the things that you say or
believe.

It does not mean the government cannot create hardship for you, or that it
must protect you from hardship imposed on you by others.

Further, the U.S. constitution does not apply to foreign nationals and it
has no direct impact on business dealings except indirectly as it relates
to the legislative process whereby State and Federal laws are enacted and
enforced that seek to regulate business dealings consistent with
constitutional law.

We must bear in mind that free speech exists within a context of freedom;
we cannot impose behavioral restrictions or affirmative obligations on
government agencies or private parties that remove the freedom of those
parties to exercise sound subjective judgment. The day that we impose
government controls for allowable consequences against you for your
choice to exercise your freedom of speech is the day we kill freedom in
our effort to protect speech.

Paul Schmehl (pauls () utdallas edu)
Adjunct Information Security Officer
The University of Texas at Dallas
AVIEN Founding Member
http://www.utdallas.edu
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