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Re: reply to criticism
From: "Euan Briggs" <euan_briggs () btinternet com>
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2002 23:20:45 -0500
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We have decided to avoid self-defeating personal vendettas
... yet this is precisely what you have proceeded to do in the rest of the post. I am sorry if you mistook my posts as personal attacks, as they are nothing of the kind. I am simply offering my personal insight into the security scene, as I mentioned in the post, because it sheds some light on the full-disclosure issue. Thus the subject line "a different perspective". I dont see PHC as a "person" anyway, I think it is perfectly legitemate to scrutinise the ideology of any activist group. I posted because this is the first forum I have found which isn't moderated to the extent that it doesnt allow frank political discussion of the security scene, and I wanted to express my opinions which despite what you obviously think, do have some value. It's just a shame that instead of discussing any of the points raised, someone had to resort to infantile tactics. Anyway, it's great to see the politics of these issues being discussed and I hope it continues without degrading into a PHC soapbox. I believe in what I have posted and my perception of the security scene, but I'm an open minded person and it would be great if someone managed to prove me wrong and change my views. Thats the whole point of discussion isnt it? Also, don't take my post about the possibility that PHC could be unwitting pawns in any strange project too literally. the intention was to make you and others think about the detrimental effect PHC's actions have on the very people they claim to represent. Given the fact that it plays into the hands of the people you have designated as your "enemies" so well, someone could be forgiven for thinking you are working for them! Finally, I don't think its up to anyone posting to this list to try and state who is worth listening to and who isnt. If you don't like the ideas that I post, I suggest you send your gripes to my email address instead of lowering the tone and cluttering up the list with junk. The only reason I have posted this now is because you publically launched a personal attack against me and I believe I have the right to defend myself and my posts. So if you dont resort to getting aggressive and slandering me when faced with an opinion with which you disagree, or have no interesting counter-argument to, I won't need to respond and waste anyones time any further, simple as that. This is my final word on this little spat and if you have any problem with what I have just posted, send any response straight to me, not the list please. Euan -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 7.0.3 for non-commercial use <http://www.pgp.com> iQA/AwUBPeGlGkP0lBKBG8xoEQKXyACeMEdiwqDcEa1Y2PyQdoVl6gwiAlsAoOz0 XjwDUTKMfILL47DzRzaczCP0 =Gj+6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
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