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Re: Security industry
From: "daniel.clemens" <daniel_clemens () autism birmingham-infragard org>
Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 10:27:34 +0000 (GMT)
I would just like to say to all you fuqn black hats out there that us "whitehats" feed your activities, when was the last time a blackhat found a good bug? All the good bugs are found by the industry, we feed you not the other way round and you have forgotten this. I think the whitehat community should find a way to discuss vulnerabilities in an environment not poluted by mallicious induviduals such as #phrack.
<rant=true> Actually, I have to disagree with your somewhat lame 'opinion' about the so called blackhats. The difference between blackhats and whitehats is that whitehats Generally respond to problems and help with the fix, while blackhats look for the hole. Now you can say one is worse than the other, and that is merely a perspective. You can say that blackhats are all evil and bad, but in reality what you are saying is 'thought is a crime' and they are the bad guys for thinking outside of the box and not oppressing their own creativity. Lets praise them for being so creative in finding and exploiting bugs. Their perspective is valuable and fun to watch evolve. I don't think any truly thinking individual can say that being creative in any environment is bad. And as far as the phrack crowd is oh so bad and filled with kiddies you might want to buy a clue on who some of the founders of phrack truly are and how they contribute to the so called black and white hat community. Um... hrm... would you say libnet is a blackhat thing, or a group of smart people sharing with people who otherwise would not have a clue and would have to waste their time writing more code ? Its good you have an opinion about *hats good and bad, but you may need to broaden your horizen to how the world works. Nothing is black and white, you putting that label on it doesn't even make it black and white. You putting and accepting the labels makes it easier for you to cope with in your perspective of the world and the socially acceptable norms you think are right and wrong. Blackhat, whitehat <whatever>, but calling the phrack people kiddies is somehow you kissing someone else's Maybe I should not have 'responding' to your lameness because this will propbably just feed your emotions..... -Dan
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