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Re: Trustworthy Computing Mini-Poll
From: Simon Richter <Simon.Richter () hogyros de>
Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 16:02:22 +0100
Heorgi, On Sun, Dec 22, 2002 at 02:29:26PM +0200, Georgi Guninski wrote:
Simon Richter wrote:[...] and I'm asking now whether you would like those features on your home box as well, even if you had to give up DVD copying or get special illegal hardware for it.
"Illegal hardware"???
Special hardware designed to break a copy protection.
Is my customized linux "illegal software" under this nonsense?
No, just untrusted, so you won't be able to play DVDs with it. Unless you add some tricks to it so the DVD believes it is talking to a trusted player, which would be somewhere along the lines of writing software to decrypt eBooks... :-/
The people proposing such nonsense should get real - there are quite a ways to modify processes execution, the simplest being a debugger.
I believe they have thought about this. Trusted software can only be debugged on a special "developer" machine. My personal favourite would be the "carefully crafted" DVD, which uses a buffer overflow in a player routine (where people optimize for speed over security anyway). :-) Simon -- GPG Fingerprint: 040E B5F7 84F1 4FBC CEAD ADC6 18A0 CC8D 5706 A4B4
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- RE: Trustworthy Computing Mini-Poll, (continued)
- RE: Trustworthy Computing Mini-Poll Andrew Thomas (Dec 18)
- Re: Trustworthy Computing Mini-Poll Simon Richter (Dec 19)
- Re: Trustworthy Computing Mini-Poll yossarian (Dec 19)
- Re: Trustworthy Computing Mini-Poll Simon Richter (Dec 20)
- Re: Trustworthy Computing Mini-Poll Ron DuFresne (Dec 20)
- Re: Trustworthy Computing Mini-Poll Bruce Ediger (Dec 20)
- Re: Trustworthy Computing Mini-Poll Simon Richter (Dec 20)
- Re: Trustworthy Computing Mini-Poll yossarian (Dec 20)
- Re: Trustworthy Computing Mini-Poll Thomas Sjögren (Dec 21)
- Re: Trustworthy Computing Mini-Poll Georgi Guninski (Dec 22)
- Re: Trustworthy Computing Mini-Poll Simon Richter (Dec 22)
- Re: Trustworthy Computing Mini-Poll Peter van den Heuvel (Dec 22)
- Re: Trustworthy Computing Mini-Poll Bruce Ediger (Dec 23)
- Re: Trustworthy Computing Mini-Poll Georgi Guninski (Dec 23)
- RE: Trustworthy Computing Mini-Poll Andrew Thomas (Dec 18)
- Re: Trustworthy Computing Mini-Poll Thomas Sjögren (Dec 29)