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Re: IPS - Cisco vs. McAfee vs. Tippingpoint


From: Gary Halleen <ghalleen () cisco com>
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:07:35 -0700

Hurgel,

While I think you'll be happy with the features and performance of Cisco's
IPS (especially if you are using 7.0 software, which comes with Reputation
Filtering and Global Correlation capabilities), you should keep in mind that
an IPS is not always the best solution for DDoS protection.

Depending on the type and severity of the DDoS attack, the IPS may provide
what you are looking for, especially if you configure it to block or
rate-limit on an upstream device, like a router, switch, or firewall.

You may also want to take a look at Arbor's Peakflow products, as well as
Cisco's Guard/Detector products.  Both of these are designed with DDoS
protection as primary features.  They also are typically deployed both at
the customer's site, as well as upstream, so that DDoS traffic is never
eating up your bandwidth to the Internet once an attack is detected.

Gary



On 7/29/09 5:25 AM, "Hurgel Bumpf" <l0rd_lunatic () yahoo com> wrote:


Hi List,

i need to protect a "realtime" website with an inline IPS from (D)DOS attacks.

I had some bad experience with Tippingpoint UnityOne 2400 field test. The
device dropped to much sessions until all connectivity was lost.
After that no investigation was not possible as TP logs all attack information
with IP address 0.0.0.0

The vendor excused this with the layered technology and passing the IP address
from the hardware to the logger would lead to delayed packages)

This is unacceptable.

i'm now looking forward to test a Cisco IPS 4270-20 and a McAfee Network
Security 4050 appliance.

Who has a good/bad experience with that devices? Is it true that all devices
don't log ip adresses?

My dream appliance would be able to run like in a 7 day learning mode which
counts max new sessions per second, max sessions per client aso. After this 7
days it creates a filter with +x% of the learned values and sets these limits
active.

A big problem is that i have to install it into the productive system to get
the real values. I dont have any fixed values regarding the new sessions per
second and i cant just guess and set values and render the system offline.

All information is highly appreciated!

Thank you very much for your time,

Andre




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