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Re: challenges in capturing Gigabit ethernet
From: "Securesolutions" <securesolutions () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 12:53:54 -0000
HelloIf you are using an offline IDSor other advanced analysis application that requires all packets of sessions go to the same device because they reqiire the full session to report on the session such as an IDS and that IDS cannot accept at Gig rates or cannot write to the HDD at this rate then you need to aggregate the traffic on a stateful balancer and then have these sessions balanced across the number of sensors required to cover the traffic input, We have used the IDS-LB from Toplayer Networks for this for a number of projects now. It comes at a price however but if the requirement for gathering stateful information and monitoring all packets at GIG rates is essential then it is definetely worth the outlay if a single server cannot handle the load,
Regarding inline IPS quoting several GIG raw throughput beware,Raw throughput is a good metric for a router but not if you need to do stateful connection setups & deep inspection of packets which is a requirement for Firewalls and IPS, I believe most IPS devices tested for raw throughput will not have this traffic passed through inspection engines or it will be clean and not require detailed analysis and does not reflect a real world environment In my opinion the numbers that are important for these devices are connection setups/sec Deep inspection throughput and latency.
/Mick----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike" <mike () jeke fdns net>
To: <focus-ids () securityfocus com> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 5:42 PM Subject: Re: challenges in capturing Gigabit ethernet
just to wrap some numbers around that, the worst case scenario for packets per second on gigabit ethernet is around 3 million for a full-duplex link (2,976,190 per second to be exact). it is difficult to just get those packets to your application, much less inspect all of them for attacks. efficent algorithms are essential, you need to very quickly catagorize a packet early on in the inspection so that you only do the necissary deep analysis. (a over-simplified example would be that you catagorize by ports so that you are not looking for IIS exploits in a SMTP session) Mike On Wed, 28 Dec 2005, Sanjay Rawat wrote:Its not only installing GB NIC. An IDS/IPS must be capable of processing the packet at that speed. For this purpose, it makes use of HW accelerators, efficient algorithms and data structures. I hope you have some idea now. regards -Sanjay At 01:28 PM 12/23/2005, Siddharth Phadnis wrote: >Hi All, > >Vendors have long been talking about gigabit ethernet capabilities of >their IDS/IPS. It got me thinking that is it just a simple matter of >installing a gigabit ethernet card in the appliance and capturing the >packets or is there any specialized hardware which is required. > >In effect, what all challenges are involved in capturing packets off a >gigabit ethernet network so that packets do not drop. Does it just >involve the hardware or are there some considerations in software too? > >Regards, >Siddharth > > Sanjay Rawat Senior Software Engineer INTOTO Software (India) Private Limited Uma Plaza, Above HSBC Bank, Nagarjuna Hills PunjaGutta,Hyderabad 500082 | India Office: + 91 40 23358927/28 Extn 422 Website : www.intoto.com Homepage: http://sanjay-rawat.tripod.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Test Your IDS Is your IDS deployed correctly? Find out quickly and easily by testing it with real-world attacks from CORE IMPACT. Go to http://www.securityfocus.com/sponsor/CoreSecurity_focus-ids_040708 to learn more. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Test Your IDS Is your IDS deployed correctly? Find out quickly and easily by testing it with real-world attacks from CORE IMPACT. Go to http://www.securityfocus.com/sponsor/CoreSecurity_focus-ids_040708 to learn more. ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Current thread:
- Re: challenges in capturing Gigabit ethernet Michael J. Semaniuk (Jan 02)
- Re: challenges in capturing Gigabit ethernet Richard Bejtlich (Jan 05)
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- Re: challenges in capturing Gigabit ethernet Securesolutions (Jan 02)
- Re: challenges in capturing Gigabit ethernet Stefano Zanero (Jan 05)