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Re: Denial of Service: Commercial Defense products


From: Stefano Zanero <zanero () elet polimi it>
Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 23:45:44 +0100

Kyle Quest wrote:
This is just some background info on this new (D)DoS technology
Radware has, so people have a better idea of what Avi is talking
about...

Let's see...

These parameters are:
1.    Source IP.
[...]
17.   DNS query ID.

Basically, any numeric parameter which can be extracted from a TCP flow
then...

They create dynamic filters and see what kind of effect they have
and how the blocked traffic source behaves. Based on those results
they adjust those filters. 

OK, this is what any anomaly detection system would do. It would be nice
if vendors sometimes added something like "how are we using the data" :)

The way things work it's not unusual for them to block legitimate
traffic for a very small period of time while they are trying to
figure out if traffic they are processing is bad or good. 

Yes, this is pretty much the idea of everyone in the field :-D

Stefano
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