IDS mailing list archives

Re: RPC Evasion techniques


From: crazy frog crazy frog <i.m.crazy.frog () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 12:30:09 +0530

hi,
does current ids/ips are able to detect attacks such as polymorphic
shell code(adm mutent) or any other such techniques?
_CF
--
bam bam
ting ding ting ding ting ding
ting ding ting ding ding
i m crazy frog :)
"oh yeah oh yeah...
 another wannabe, in hackerland!!!"

On 10/31/05, Pukhraj Singh <pukhraj.singh () gmail com> wrote:
Lot of things can be done to evade IPS/IDS.

The tricks vary from protcol to protocol. The difference in the
decoding mechanism of security appliance and the application server
can lead to many evasion techniques. I have created and tested many
mutant exploits and they worked beautifully. The idea is to strike and
exploit some  fundamental concepts of logic and protocols which
IDS/IPS makers tend to ignore or is simply beyond their device
capability

Apparently, I haven't documented and organized the work I did.

But here is an introductory paper you should definitely read:
http://www.cs.ucsb.edu/~rsg/Hidra/Papers/2004_vigna_robertson_balzarotti_CCS04.pdf

--Pukhraj Singh


On 10/27/05, tcp fin <inet_inaddr () yahoo com> wrote:
Hi Guys ,
Any tips and tricks or good article on IDS/IPS evasion
?
I have beautiful paper "Insertion, Evasion and Denial
of Service:
Eluding Network Intrusion detection".
I need some pointers on RPC based  evasion techniques.

Regards,
TCP FIN .




__________________________________
Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005
http://mail.yahoo.com

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Test Your IDS

Is your IDS deployed correctly?
Find out quickly and easily by testing it
with real-world attacks from CORE IMPACT.
Go to http://www.securityfocus.com/sponsor/CoreSecurity_focus-ids_040708
to learn more.
------------------------------------------------------------------------



------------------------------------------------------------------------
Test Your IDS

Is your IDS deployed correctly?
Find out quickly and easily by testing it
with real-world attacks from CORE IMPACT.
Go to http://www.securityfocus.com/sponsor/CoreSecurity_focus-ids_040708
to learn more.
------------------------------------------------------------------------




-

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Test Your IDS

Is your IDS deployed correctly?
Find out quickly and easily by testing it
with real-world attacks from CORE IMPACT.
Go to http://www.securityfocus.com/sponsor/CoreSecurity_focus-ids_040708
to learn more.
------------------------------------------------------------------------


Current thread: