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RE: IDS Sensor operation


From: "Joseph Hamm" <jhamm () lancope com>
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 11:40:20 -0400

Vijai,

Two links you should check out from the ISS Knowledgebase:

Why do I have to select an Adapter for Kills?
https://iss.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/iss.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_sid=r
CTgkImh&p_lva=&p_faqid=1026&p_created=1022780331&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9ncm
lkc29ydD0mcF9yb3dfY250PTYmcF9zZWFyY2hfdGV4dD1yc2tpbGwmcF9zZWFyY2hfdHlwZT
0zJnBfcHJvZF9sdmwxPX5hbnl_JnBfcHJvZF9sdmwyPX5hbnl_JnBfY2F0X2x2bDE9fmFueX
4mcF9zb3J0X2J5PWRmbHQmcF9wYWdlPTE*&p_li=

and 

How does a RealSecure Kill (RSKill) work?
https://iss.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/iss.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_sid=r
CTgkImh&p_lva=&p_faqid=96&p_created=976872224&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9ncmlkc
29ydD0mcF9yb3dfY250PTYmcF9zZWFyY2hfdGV4dD1yc2tpbGwmcF9zZWFyY2hfdHlwZT0zJ
nBfcHJvZF9sdmwxPX5hbnl_JnBfcHJvZF9sdmwyPX5hbnl_JnBfY2F0X2x2bDE9fmFueX4mc
F9zb3J0X2J5PWRmbHQmcF9wYWdlPTE*&p_li=

The funny thing about TCP resets is that sometimes they work and
sometimes they don't (at least in my experience).  With any type of
mitigation response there are pros and cons.  On the upside, you don't
have to reconfigure one of your network devices to kill the connection.
On the downside, they aren't always reliable.  It might be the case that
this is the only option if there is no network device between the two
hosts.  Of course, that is where blocking at the switch port comes
in......which has its own issues;)

Hope this helps,
Joe

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-----Original Message-----
From: Vijai K (Infosec) - CTD, Chennai. [mailto:vijaik () ctd hcltech com] 
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 2:36 AM
To: focus-ids () securityfocus com; Srinivasa Rao Addepalli
Subject: IDS Sensor operation 


Hi folks

 
Basically sensors operates with promiscuous mode interface  for
monitoring
data,rite
But there is an optionality in  an IDS to alert the firewall
(reconfigure)to
block the intrusion IP, and also to kill the session or connectionby the
sensor itself.

this we see in Realsecure Network sensor 7.0 where there  is a option
called
RSKILL.

But the question is how is it possible for a interface in promiscuous
mode
to act like this since there is no binding in the interface(TCP/IP,etc).

Did it uses other NIC which is for management purpose???

Hope u all understand the question



Regds
Vijai.K



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