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Re: [IDS] IDS Common Criteria
From: Randy Taylor <gnu () charm net>
Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 16:49:53 -0500
*chuckle* I completely missed the "Outside the Government.." part of Andy's question. My bad. More inline below. At 04:04 PM 1/7/2003 -0500, Frederick M Avolio wrote:
Sorry, Randy. To be sure. I was responding directly in context. Andy askedOutside Government and Military circles where I can see Common Criteria Certification being extremely useful, how valuable is it, ie within the financial sector etc ?I don't think it is valuable at all. I don't see how it possibly could be forgovernment, either. But, to the poor vendor who now has to comply with it... yes,it is essential. Perhaps it stimulates the economy. :-)
I'm a member of a private list that often uses the phrase "...or something" whenever hard-coded dogma (or catma) flies in the face of what most would perceive as logical, rational, or reasonable. So, to mangle your quote above: "Perhaps it stimulates the economy...or something." }-> All seriousness aside, there is value in Common Criteria if it's in nothing more than establishing a baseline evaluation standard whose results can be used to help folks make decisions about products in a given category. Hrm. If you run that statement through Asimov's Language Clarifier, does anything come out the other side? I have friends that work in CC testing and eval labs, and they are all really smart people. Ok, they're a bit bent, but really really smart. A couple of years ago, I was asked to work with them on the Win2k CC project. I joined Enterasys instead. At the time, it seemed like the least painful option. Hindsight is always 20-20, isn't it? Guess what I got tapped to do just before I left Enterasys? Jump-start the CC process for Dragon. The Universe is a very strange place. It folds back on itself at the most inconvenient times. Most of what I had to say about that before I left usually started with, "Oh God", or, "Oh crap". I just ran all of the CC documentation through Mr. Asimov's device. I was curious to see what the result would be. Here it is: "There is no escape from Common Criteria. Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated. Now shut up and get your paperwork together. And have a nice day...or something." See?
Fred
Randy ----- "Nor does it do anything to make lemons bigger or encourage owls to explode." --- MartinG on /. ---
Current thread:
- IDS Common Criteria Talisker (Jan 06)
- Re: [IDS] IDS Common Criteria Frederick M Avolio (Jan 07)
- Re: [IDS] IDS Common Criteria Randy Taylor (Jan 07)
- Re: [IDS] IDS Common Criteria Frederick M Avolio (Jan 07)
- Re: [IDS] IDS Common Criteria Randy Taylor (Jan 07)
- Re: [IDS] IDS Common Criteria Talisker (Jan 07)
- Re: [IDS] IDS Common Criteria Randy Taylor (Jan 07)
- RE: [IDS] IDS Common Criteria Greg van der Gaast (Jan 08)
- Re: [IDS] IDS Common Criteria Randy Taylor (Jan 07)
- Re: [IDS] IDS Common Criteria Frederick M Avolio (Jan 07)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- RE: IDS Common Criteria Greenspan, Howard (Jan 07)
- RE: IDS Common Criteria Alan Shimel (Jan 07)
- RE: IDS Common Criteria Joseph M Hoffman (Jan 07)