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slow scans?
From: Anton Chuvakin <anton () chuvakin org>
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 13:46:41 -0500 (EST)
All, This is a somewhat generic information query for methods to detect slow (aka "low and slow") port scans and network scans using IDS (or whatever other means). By slow scans I mean port probes occurring over the period of hours to months (!) against the different destinations and even potentially from different sources (both in the form of coordinated and spoofed scans). The only resource I identified was the Spice/Spade from the Silicon Defense site. References in http://www.silicondefense.com/pptntext/Spice-JCS.pdf seem to be pretty outdated and the detection methods are implied to be inferior to that of Spice. Also, the classic X packets in Y second to Z port/hosts seem to be pretty useless for truly slow scans, such as those spanning days and weeks. Plotting pictures of sequential port accesses seem to only reveal the sequential scans from a single source against a single destination, which are relatively easy to pick up. Anything more high tech? And finally, does anybody really care? I know for sure that some folks do, but I suspect their percentage is reeeally small. Is that so? Thanks a lot for any tips, references and information pointers. Best, -- Anton A. Chuvakin, Ph.D., GCIA http://www.chuvakin.org http://www.info-secure.org
Current thread:
- slow scans? Anton Chuvakin (Feb 12)
- Re: slow scans? Johannes Ullrich (Feb 12)
- Re: slow scans? Anton Chuvakin (Feb 12)
- Re: slow scans? James Hoagland (Feb 14)
- Re: slow scans? Tod Beardsley (Feb 18)
- RE: slow scans? Rob Shein (Feb 18)
- Re: slow scans? Johannes Ullrich (Feb 12)
- Re: slow scans? Ron Gula (Feb 12)
- Re: slow scans? Anton Chuvakin (Feb 12)
- Re: slow scans? James Hoagland (Feb 14)