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Re: False positives, negatives and don't cares
From: Bennett Todd <bet () rahul net>
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 11:16:47 -0400
A very thought-provoking note (no surprise there). I think it's fair to distinguish genuine false-positives (result of flawed analysis/sigs/whatever triggering on truly legit traffic) from irrelevent-to-local-context attacks. And I agree that these irrelevent-to-local-context attacks can produce useful intelligence. But to my tastes, a more exciting way to approach things is to programmatically weed the sig set down, resulting in small enough analytic sets to allow very fast processing. [ Disclaimer re following: I've looked at the product, but not actually used it. ] I think nCircle has a pretty sexy product in that vein; they've worked on non-disruptive automated vuln scanning, and coupled that to an IDS engine that's used to watch for attempts to exploit apparently-vulnerable servers. So on a sufficiently tightly-tuned plant, the IDS engine would normally not be active; it'd only begin looking for a small number of sigs when a config error opens a vuln, and would only remain active until admins respond to the alerts and plug the holes. -Bennett
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