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Re: Personal Firewall Day?
From: "Bill Royds" <broyds () rogers com>
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 18:00:35 -0400
The argument between general purpose computers and specialized ones parallels the debate between public transit and individual automobiles. One can easily show that using public transit for most urban transportation needs would lower pollution, infrastructure costs and increase safety. But the flexibility of having your own vehicle (general purpose computer) versus the efficiency of public transit with sufficient volume to be convenient is always won by the private car. We even subsidise private automobiles by having taxes pay for roads while requiring buses to charge fares. But woe betide any policitican who tries to take peoples cars away from them. Efficiency and security are not compelling arguments for application specific computers. In our societies, flexibility and freedom are far greater values than safety and cost. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marcus J. Ranum" <mjr () ranum com> To: "Gary Flynn" <flynngn () jmu edu> Cc: "Crispin Cowan" <crispin () immunix com>; "Christopher Hicks" <chicks () chicks net>; <firewall-wizards () honor icsalabs com> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 12:01 PM Subject: Re: [fw-wiz] Personal Firewall Day? Gary Flynn wrote:
I think we're addicted to general purpose computing because of its
versatility,
freedom, and associated potential to innovate
Gary has put his finger on the one big outstanding flaw in my argument. :( Innovation. The kind of computing environment I think we actually need would dramatically stifle the ability to innovate. But --- AOL users can't innovate within their AOL-sphere and don't appear to miss it. But that's probably because they can apply customizations via the surrounding underlying O/S. The desire to customize is amazingly powerful and cannot be discounted. I think it's the main reason we won't shift to the kind of environment I think we could build that would solve a lot of our computing problems. :( Hey - I didn't say I had all the answers!! Actually, I think I have all the questions! :) mjr. _______________________________________________ firewall-wizards mailing list firewall-wizards () honor icsalabs com http://honor.icsalabs.com/mailman/listinfo/firewall-wizards _______________________________________________ firewall-wizards mailing list firewall-wizards () honor icsalabs com http://honor.icsalabs.com/mailman/listinfo/firewall-wizards
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- Re: Personal Firewall Day?, (continued)
- Re: Personal Firewall Day? Marcus J. Ranum (Oct 05)
- Re: Personal Firewall Day? Devdas Bhagat (Oct 06)
- Re: Personal Firewall Day? Christopher Hicks (Oct 06)
- Re: Personal Firewall Day? Christopher Hicks (Oct 06)
- Re: Personal Firewall Day? Crispin Cowan (Oct 06)
- Re: Personal Firewall Day? Marcus J. Ranum (Oct 06)
- Re: Personal Firewall Day? Crispin Cowan (Oct 07)
- Re: Personal Firewall Day? Gary Flynn (Oct 07)
- Re: Personal Firewall Day? Marcus J. Ranum (Oct 07)
- Re: Personal Firewall Day? David Lang (Oct 07)
- Re: Personal Firewall Day? Bill Royds (Oct 11)
- Re: Personal Firewall Day? Devdas Bhagat (Oct 11)
- Re: Personal Firewall Day? Devdas Bhagat (Oct 06)
- Re: Personal Firewall Day? Marcus J. Ranum (Oct 05)
- Re: Personal Firewall Day? Devdas Bhagat (Oct 07)
- Re: Personal Firewall Day? Dragos Ruiu (Oct 07)
- Re: Personal Firewall Day? Christopher Hicks (Oct 07)
- Re: Personal Firewall Day? Marcus J. Ranum (Oct 07)
- Re: Personal Firewall Day? Adam Shostack (Oct 07)
- Re: Personal Firewall Day? R. DuFresne (Oct 07)
- Re: Personal Firewall Day? Frank Knobbe (Oct 16)
- Re: Personal Firewall Day? Marcus J. Ranum (Oct 07)
- Re: OfficeTV (was: Personal Firewall Day?) Dragos Ruiu (Oct 07)