Re: Firewall Primitives

[Paul Robertson <proberts () patriot net>]

On Mon, 11 Nov 2002, Marcus J. Ranum wrote:

> Stephen P. Berry wrote:
> > As a result, customers, on the whole, get the security the dumbest customers
> > deserve.  

So good I quoted it twice.

> Basically, we're dealing with a problem that is on the order of
> a public health issue. Imagine there's a sexually-transmitted
> disease that can kill if you get it. But lots of people ignore
> it because mitigation is a pain in the neck and the rest of the
> people are ignorant. So maybe only a small percentage of the
> population protects themself. Sooner or later, that percentage
> gets it _anyhow_ because within a long enough time, everyone on
> earth has it and, well, the few clueful people are still stuck
> on earth. Now, there are fixes - but they are draconian and
> involve trampling on people's "right" to be stupid. This is the

This is what happens- the people all wait for medicine to find a cure, so 
they don't have to worry about protection.  "Modern medicine will find a 
cure before it affects me."  That's what all the folks out there want to 
belive, so they do.

That firewall medicine isn't curing it- take some IDS medicine, still not 
curing it... IPS medicine...

Paul "I'm still blaming plug-gw" Robertson 
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