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RE: Reducing Napster and beyond...
From: Jonn Martell <martell () ucs ubc ca>
Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2000 04:10:16 -0700 (PDT)
What is the "problem"? : Pigs. Pure pigs. Napters (version 10/00) will use as much bandwidth as it can. Is this "good". "Sure!" and "No way!" If it's there, use it...well.... it costs $$ doen't it?? That is where usage charging fall apart. "We" have enough fiber - let's not be "pigs" one way or the other.... Is this really too much to ask?? As for what "technology" to deploy to make Napster "behave" (because it simply DOES NOT), Packeteer seems to be the leader at this point. Disc: Not an investor, yet. :) fool On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, Harris, Tim wrote:
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 14:53:23 -0700 From: "Harris, Tim" <tharris () ocair com> To: "'Zarcone, Christopher'" <Christopher.Zarcone () netigy com>, firewall-wizards () nfr net Subject: RE: [fw-wiz] Killing Napster and beyond... This is essentially just like many of the other problems we face as network/firewall/infrastructure administrators/designers/etc. There are two people (or groups) with goals that are fundamentally in conflict and are utterly incompatible with each other. There is no pure technological solution nor is there a purely procedural solution. If either extreme prevails then the loser will search for a way around the solution. Given the current limitations we have to live with, whether they be technology, policy or finances, the only possible solution is going to have to be a compromise between the opposing groups. A "people" solution bolstered by technology and backed by some meaningful penalties should either group break the agreement. Naturally, this solution will be different for every organization but we do the best we can, don't we? That, of course brings us around to why this thread is on "Firewall-wizards" in the first place: What are the technological mechanisms for preventing these applications? See Christopher's post for a very brief list of some of the possibilities. -----Original Message-----From: Zarcone, Christopher [mailto:Christopher.Zarcone () netigy com] Indeed, Napster and RealAudio are greedy applications in terms of bandwidth, but there are a lot of creative solutions that don't involve blocking ports._______________________________________________ firewall-wizards mailing list firewall-wizards () nfr com http://www.nfr.com/mailman/listinfo/firewall-wizards
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- Re: Killing Napster and beyond..., (continued)
- Re: Killing Napster and beyond... Brad Van Orden (Oct 19)
- Re: Killing Napster and beyond... Darren Reed (Oct 20)
- Re: Killing Napster and beyond... R. DuFresne (Oct 20)
- Re: Killing Napster and beyond... John McDermott (Oct 20)
- Re: Killing Napster and beyond... Brad Van Orden (Oct 19)
- RE: Killing Napster and beyond... Zarcone, Christopher (Oct 19)
- RE: Killing Napster and beyond... Barry Dykes (Oct 20)
- RE: Killing Napster and beyond... David O'Shea (Oct 20)
- RE: Killing Napster and beyond... Henry Sieff (Oct 19)
- RE: Killing Napster and beyond... Dave Costello (Oct 20)
- RE: Killing Napster and beyond... Harris, Tim (Oct 20)
- RE: Reducing Napster and beyond... Jonn Martell (Oct 23)
- RE: Killing Napster and beyond... Delmer Harris (Oct 20)
- Re: Killing Napster and beyond... Vern Paxson (Oct 20)
- Re: Killing Napster and beyond... Brad Van Orden (Oct 20)
- RE: Killing Napster and beyond... jcintron (Oct 23)
- RE: Killing Napster and beyond... agoldney (Oct 24)
- RE: Killing Napster and beyond... Barry Dykes (Oct 24)
- RE: Killing Napster and beyond... agoldney (Oct 24)
- RE: Killing Napster and beyond... Graham, Randy (RAW) (Oct 24)