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Re: Re: Trusted OS...


From: Bennett Todd <bet () rahul net>
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 13:47:18 -0500

2000-03-31-13:41:37 Starkey, Kyle:
I am with you on the fact that the TOS certification is a little
much for the corporate standard, but I can not accept the fact
that there is any other way to certify that the OS is truly
tursted.  The OS and ALL of it subcomponents must be broken down
and mathematically proven to adhere to the security structure
that the OS was designed for.  Most of us have no time to read
through 4000 pages of mathematical proofs, but to be a TOS you
must be able to provide this document before I will accept that
certification.

So far, I've not seen a certification I'd want --- i.e. I've not
seen one that has covered products that I'd want, or that would make
me want the covered products more.

Some certifications are so superficial or irrelevant that they don't
tell me anything I'd care about.

Others are so bulky, slow, and cumbersome that they are a complete
barrier to quick development, and so will never apply to anything
except really antiquated systems with depressingly archaeic designs
and a spartan lack of features.

I remain unconvinced that this gap will be filled in any time soon;
and it's between where the really spiffy engineering is happening.

As a specific for-instance: I trust the auditing done by the OpenBSD
folks more than I trust the code reviews performed by the TPEP. And
I'm _sure_ more inclined to use OpenBSD than any evaluated OS I know
of.

Of course I like Linux even better. Nothing like having a few orders
of magnitude more people working on the system to keep it in a
froth.

-Bennett

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