RE: IDS data collection _outside_ of a firewall

[Marc Delince <marc.delince () computer org>]

How do you justify installing cameras outside embassies, public buildings, ... manufacturing plants, ... office 
buildings? Even if there is nobody to watch the cameras in real-time, the tapes can be used when necessary.

Isn't that the non-internet related analogy everyone should use?

Have a great day.

Marc Delince, CISSP
marc.delince () computer org

-----Original Message-----
From:   roger nebel [SMTP:roger () homecom com]
Sent:   Thursday, January 21, 1999 11:06 PM
To:     Dominique Brezinski
Cc:     John Kozubik; firewall-wizards () nfr net
Subject:        Re: IDS data collection _outside_ of a firewall

from my experience with dod and other us agencies, and the largest
commercial entities (think fortune 10), it's clear to me that dominique
is dead on correct.  

who cares how many people stopped at the red light?  they stopped, end
of story, see ya.  it's the jerks who ran it that you are interested in
.. as one very large retail customer once told me "what could I
possibly care about that which does not help or hinder us selling
socks?" 

--roger

Dominique Brezinski wrote:
> At 10:33 PM 1/19/99 -0800, John Kozubik wrote:
> > > Also, the comment on having ID sensors outside the firewall is also
> > > equally flawed.
> >
> > I must respectfully disagree.
> >
> > Please refer to:
> >
> > http://www.nswc.navy.mil/ISSEC/CID/
>
> Notice the source of this information - DoD.  As I mentioned in my post,
> the only organizations that have the resources necessary to implement a
> cyber threat detection (notice I did not use the term "intrusion
> detection," ... are DoD ...

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