Re: future of IDS

[Vern Paxson <vern () ee lbl gov>]

> > First meeting likely to be at the Orlando IETF in December.
>
> Is this being done as part of the Common Intrusion Detection Framework
> project - http://seclab.cs.ucdavis.edu/cidf/.

There's certainly input from CIDF, though it's a separate effort.

> I've seen some mention of an
> IETF working group on the mailing list but all has been quiet since the
> start of October.

The proposal was just announced, per the appended.  You can send comments
to iesg () ietf org.

> I know that several of the more serious IDS vendors were
> interested in the CIDF work (including I believe NFR), have any of them
> expressed an interest in possible IETF work?

I don't know, I'm only on the periphery of the working group formation.

                Vern


Date:  Fri, 23 Oct 1998 08:04:27 -0400
From:  Steve Coya <scoya () ns cnri reston va us>
Subject:  WG REVIEW: Intrusion Detection (idwg)
To:  IETF-Announce: ;
Cc:  new-work () ietf org

A new IETF working group has been proposed in the Security Area.
The IESG has not made any determination as yet.

The following Description was submitted, and is provided for
informational purposes:

Description of Working Group:
 
Security incidents are becoming more common and more serious, and 
intrusion detection systems are becoming of increasing commercial
importance.  Numerous intrusion detection systems are important in the 
market and different sites will select different vendors. Since 
incidents are often distributed over multiple sites, it is likely that
different aspects of a single incident will be visible to different
systems.  Thus it would be advantageous for diverse intrusion
detection systems to be able to share data on attacks in progress.

The purpose of the Intrusion Detection Working Group is to define data
formats and exchange procedures for sharing information of interest to
intrusion detection and response systems, and to management systems
which may need to interact with them.  The Intrusion Detection Working
Group will coordinate its efforts with other IETF Working Groups.

The outputs of this working group will be:

1. A requirements document, which describes the high-level functional
   requirements for communication between intrusion detection systems 
   and requirements for communication between intrusion detection 
   systems and with management systems, including the rationale for 
   those requirements.  Scenarios will be used to illustrate the 
   requirements.

2. A common intrusion language specification, which describes data 
   formats that satisfy the requirements.

3. A framework document, which identifies existing protocols best used
   for communication between intrusion detection systems, and describes
   how the devised data formats relate to them.
 
 Goals and Milestones: 
 
   Apr 99       Submit Requirements document as an Internet-Draft              

   Aug 99       Submit Framework and Language documents as Internet-Drafts     

   Aug 99       Submit Requirements document to IESG for consideration as an 
                RFC.                                                           

   Dec 99       Submit Framework and Language documents to IESG for 
                consideration as RFCs.