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RE: Short note on new Laws
From: ICMan <shane () tor securecomputing com>
Date: Fri, 3 Jul 1998 19:22:39 -0400
Looking over the bill, it does appear at first glance that security tools and such would be suspect. However, I thought I saw a clause about the limitation of liability if the manufacture, use, blah, blah of such technology was required for livelihood. Also, the manufacture of such products, if used personally, and only for the purposes of working contracts where the data owner (Copyright Holder) has requested the service and is willing to pay for said service should provide a legal loophole big enough to drive a truck through. If you make the tool yourself, and only use it on people who request the service, then the tool is not for circumventing copy protection. There is no copy protection on information you have been asked to copy. Also, only cryptanalysis tools seem to fit the category. A hacking tool is for liberating information that is on public sites. Although the information there is protected, it is not COPY protected per se. A different set of rules should apply with scanning tools. (Although a good prosecutor may be able to make this rule stick. You'd need a good defense attourny.) The biggest problem of this bill is that it does not take into account tools created for the express purpose of TESTING copy protection technology. Are they restricted? They amount to the same thing. Perhaps this is the loophole. "Er... your Honour, the tool in question was NOT made for the purpose of circumventing copy protection technology, it was made to test the effectiveness of such technology. Yeah, and I would like to call my first witness... my wife. Morgan Fairchild. Yeah." The legal system may eventually figure out how to make all this stuff work, but there will be many Kevin Mitnick's before the dust settles. ICMan -----Original Message----- From: Rick Smith [SMTP:rick_smith () securecomputing com] Sent: Monday, 29 June, 1998 1:55 PM To: Stout, Bill; Firewall-wizards Subject: Re: Short note on new Laws At 08:11 PM 6/26/98 -0400, Stout, Bill wrote:
You legal types on this security list tell me if this is true: ---Digital Millennium Act of 1998 --- (Passed Senate, in House for review) see http://thomas.loc.gov/, search for 'Digital Millennium Act'. Makes many security tools, services or discussions (even this list) illegal ...
So this would make "Internet Cryptography" an illegal book, I suppose. Personally I doubt they could make it stick in court. However, this might force the issue of whether or not software is protected speech or something else. This has interesting implications on export controls. I'd be interested to know how this relates to the legal notion of "burglary tools," which are things you buy at the hardware store, and apparently are only illegal when used under suspicious circumstances (whatever that means).
Makes firewalls (or firewall at ISPs) illegal ...
It sounds like the law is trying to turn ISPs into arms-length carriers of bits. I wonder if this would make it illegal to an ISP to selectively offer newsgroups, or if it obligates them to carry all of USENET or none of it. Law is such a ham-handed way of doing these things. Rick. smith () securecomputing com
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