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Re: IT Separation of Duties question
From: Jamie Schademan <Jamie.Schademan () CWU EDU>
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2020 20:25:28 +0000
Good point Randy thank you. Jamie Jamie Schademan CISM, MSIT, MSCS Chief Information Security Officer Information Security Services Central Washington University Jamie.Schademan () cwu edu<mailto:Jamie.Schademan () cwu edu> From: The EDUCAUSE Security Community Group Listserv <SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU> On Behalf Of randy Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 11:31 AM To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU Subject: Re: [SECURITY] IT Separation of Duties question Caution: This email originated from outside the university. Do not click on links, open attachments, or reply unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. If you consider this email as phishing or spam please use the Report Message Button<https://cwu.teamdynamix.com/TDClient/2015/Portal/KB/ArticleDet?ID=78311> in Outlook to inform both the CWU Service Desk and Microsoft. If you're going to give people admin privileges on any machine, they need to be properly trained. I use the analogy of a piece of construction equipment. Just because I know how to drive a stick shift vehicle doesn't mean I can drive a big construction shovel machine. As a former sysadmin (25yrs), I shudder hearing developers are going to be admins w/o training AND developers would feel the same if a bunch of admins were told to be developers. Poorly trained technical staff (admin, dev, user) is a greater threat to an org than any hacker. So, if your mgt wants to fund training for devs to be admins, then prove it by paying for the training. -Randy Marchany VA Tech IT Security Office and Lab On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 1:35 PM Jamie Schademan <Jamie.Schademan () cwu edu<mailto:Jamie.Schademan () cwu edu>> wrote: Hello, Because of a turnover in our System Administrator position for PeopleSoft (patching, upgrade, moves to production), we (security) are being asked to allow a number of our PeopleSoft developers to have access to do the admin job function. I have provided information to leadership about the violation of Segregation of Duties, the ISACA SoD in IT Matrix, and other arguments for not doing this. For reference we have an application group of approximately 23 people. My recommendation has been to provide someone with the opportunity to upgrade into the PeopleSoft System Admin role, but that has not been well received. They would just like to just have developers also do system admin work. Can I get your input and experiences on this? Thank you, Jamie Jamie Schademan CISM, MSIT, MSCS Chief Information Security Officer Information Security Services Central Washington University ********** Replies to EDUCAUSE Community Group emails are sent to the entire community list. If you want to reply only to the person who sent the message, copy and paste their email address and forward the email reply. Additional participation and subscription information can be found at https://www.educause.edu/community ********** Replies to EDUCAUSE Community Group emails are sent to the entire community list. If you want to reply only to the person who sent the message, copy and paste their email address and forward the email reply. Additional participation and subscription information can be found at https://www.educause.edu/community ********** Replies to EDUCAUSE Community Group emails are sent to the entire community list. If you want to reply only to the person who sent the message, copy and paste their email address and forward the email reply. Additional participation and subscription information can be found at https://www.educause.edu/community ********** Replies to EDUCAUSE Community Group emails are sent to the entire community list. If you want to reply only to the person who sent the message, copy and paste their email address and forward the email reply. Additional participation and subscription information can be found at https://www.educause.edu/community
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- IT Separation of Duties question Jamie Schademan (Jul 23)
- Re: IT Separation of Duties question Jones, Mark B (Jul 23)
- Re: IT Separation of Duties question randy (Jul 23)
- Re: IT Separation of Duties question Jamie Schademan (Jul 23)