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Re: [EXTERNAL]Re: [SECURITY] Standard operations question
From: "Bristol, Gary L." <gbristol () OU EDU>
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2019 16:35:26 +0000
This would also require a BAA to be established with the Vendor depending on the type of data that they would have access too. From: The EDUCAUSE Security Community Group Listserv <SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU> On Behalf Of SPolsky@PACC Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 10:24 AM To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU Subject: [EXTERNAL]Re: [SECURITY] Standard operations question Julian, Asking who is "responsible for the account" is, IMHO, a bit ambiguous — and not necessarily the same thing as being responsible for the collection, use, processing, and disclosure of personal information done within that account. A fundamental tenet of data protection and privacy laws is that the entity that collects the information is responsible for controlling and securing the information. So even though the department has contracted with an external party (presumably with a written contract, and one that addresses data responsibility, liability, and repatriation), Northwestern remains responsible for the information. If someone at the third party misuses or inappropriately discloses the information, affected individuals would look to Northwestern. Similarly, managing the account, and granting access, must be controlled by Northwestern; otherwise, it enables the third party service provider to have control and grant access to information that Northwestern is responsible to safeguard. Allowing the tail to wag the dog isn’t often a good strategy. HTH. Sharon Polsky BIS MAPP President & CEO — AMINAcorp.ca<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__aminacorp.ca_&d=DwMFaQ&c=qKdtBuuu6dQK9MsRUVJ2DPXW6oayO8fu4TfEHS8sGNk&r=n7xJg_eNKF-qpF5mL-g_1w&m=oW061QOeTFSk_ErAKaoDqcKt9sdLRcxtF1ScOtIegvY&s=UhS8UUVjyQqVdA41SShcUpb7bo9qlY4vYiuq2yu_wUQ&e=> — @AMINAcorp<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__twitter.com_AMINAcorp&d=DwMFaQ&c=qKdtBuuu6dQK9MsRUVJ2DPXW6oayO8fu4TfEHS8sGNk&r=n7xJg_eNKF-qpF5mL-g_1w&m=oW061QOeTFSk_ErAKaoDqcKt9sdLRcxtF1ScOtIegvY&s=j4D7M-0zEtB01_f_CLk-BMLoeC71hlre52V6EjM70qo&e=> President — Privacy and Access Council of Canada<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__pacc-2Dccap.ca_&d=DwMFaQ&c=qKdtBuuu6dQK9MsRUVJ2DPXW6oayO8fu4TfEHS8sGNk&r=n7xJg_eNKF-qpF5mL-g_1w&m=oW061QOeTFSk_ErAKaoDqcKt9sdLRcxtF1ScOtIegvY&s=ajqSiENeyguS67cIY9FPPV3wLgNE2ZOFnfXRe1n7sKU&e=>— @PACC-CCAP<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__twitter.com_PACC-5FCCAP&d=DwMFaQ&c=qKdtBuuu6dQK9MsRUVJ2DPXW6oayO8fu4TfEHS8sGNk&r=n7xJg_eNKF-qpF5mL-g_1w&m=oW061QOeTFSk_ErAKaoDqcKt9sdLRcxtF1ScOtIegvY&s=uYMS0mke1L_x6iuXL4TP_B8KNKJg-XDMiKt0xj1eI-U&e=> Member, Standards Council of Canada<scc.cahttp://www.scc.ca/en/news-events/news/2018/iso-standard-will-help-protect-consumer-privacy-online-0> GDPR Advisory Committee — @StandardsCanada <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__twitter.com_StandardsCanada&d=DwMFaQ&c=qKdtBuuu6dQK9MsRUVJ2DPXW6oayO8fu4TfEHS8sGNk&r=n7xJg_eNKF-qpF5mL-g_1w&m=oW061QOeTFSk_ErAKaoDqcKt9sdLRcxtF1ScOtIegvY&s=wTxsZLS4C6rM4f9s8aNeBbkZzNrXk10RpIm06ETG1Ug&e=> PbD — Privacy By Design Ambassador<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__web.archive.org_web_20121012080217_http-3A__privacybydesign.ca_ambassadors_individuals_page_7_&d=DwMFaQ&c=qKdtBuuu6dQK9MsRUVJ2DPXW6oayO8fu4TfEHS8sGNk&r=n7xJg_eNKF-qpF5mL-g_1w&m=oW061QOeTFSk_ErAKaoDqcKt9sdLRcxtF1ScOtIegvY&s=LOfyXK_0IsqDaU9T9OjbyGCwLiBYWr5XCMMH6RVr10I&e=> On 02 Feb 2019, at 8:41 AM, Frank Barton <bartonf () HUSSON EDU<mailto:bartonf () HUSSON EDU>> wrote: I would agree that the service owner should be responsible for the account, however, in the spirit of 'checks-and-balances', i would suggest that the datacenter team routinely 'audit' the account, and the continued need for the account with the owning team On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 10:37 AM Julian Y Koh <kohster () northwestern edu<mailto:kohster () northwestern edu>> wrote: On Feb 21, 2019, at 09:21, Jared Evans <jared.evans () GALLAUDET EDU<mailto:jared.evans () GALLAUDET EDU>> wrote: A department has gone with a service provided by an external party and has a support contract with them. This support service necessitates a VPN account along with an user account (along with appropriate access control placed upon it). While we have created and filed the documentation for this account, who is ultimately responsible for this account going forward? The system owner of the service who has set the justification for the existence of the account or the datacenter team which maintains our accounts? IMO the service owner should be responsible for the account. -- Julian Y. 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- Standard operations question Jared Evans (Feb 21)
- Re: Standard operations question Julian Y Koh (Feb 21)
- Re: Standard operations question Frank Barton (Feb 21)
- Re: Standard operations question SPolsky@PACC (Feb 21)
- Re: Standard operations question Julian Y Koh (Feb 21)
- Re: [EXTERNAL]Re: [SECURITY] Standard operations question Bristol, Gary L. (Feb 21)
- Re: Standard operations question Frank Barton (Feb 21)
- Re: Standard operations question Julian Y Koh (Feb 21)
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- Re: Standard operations question Jared Evans (Feb 21)
- Re: Standard operations question Frank Barton (Feb 21)
- Re: Standard operations question SPolsky@PACC (Feb 21)