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Re: Recent experience traveling China


From: Shawn Merdinger <shawnmer () GMAIL COM>
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2016 13:14:03 -0500

Clearly a challenging environment.

A few US Gov't resources...not that anything official will provide
clear answers or solutions.

http://travel.state.gov/content/passports/en/country/china.html

"Surveillance and Monitoring:  Security personnel carefully watch
foreign visitors and may place you under surveillance. Hotel rooms
(including meeting rooms), offices, cars, taxis, telephones, Internet
usage, and fax machines may be monitored onsite or remotely, and
personal possessions in hotel rooms, including computers, may be
searched without your consent or knowledge.  Security personnel have
been known to detain and deport U.S. citizens sending private
electronic messages critical of the Chinese government."

https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/investigate/counterintelligence/student-brochure

Several tips, but imho the most important:

"n most countries, you have no expectation of privacy in Internet
cafes, hotels, airplanes, offices, or public spaces. All information
you send electronically (fax, computer, telephone) can be intercepted,
especially wireless communications. If information might be valuable
to another government, company or group, you should assume that it
will be intercepted and retained. Security services and criminals can
track your movements using your mobile phone and can turn on the
microphone in your device even when you think it is turned off."

Cheers,
--scm

On 3/3/16, Nasir Hakeem <nasir.hakeem () cgu edu> wrote:
Our group has 2 options, one is the open DNS client that is tied to umbrella
(uses our approved DNS ips anywhere reachable) and second we have our
standard Cisco vpn service. Have not had any reported issues with users
outside the US. This includes China and Middle East.

Nasir Hakeem | Sr. Systems and Network Administrator

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On Mar 3, 2016, at 8:56 AM, Hudson, Edward
<ehudson () CALSTATE EDU<mailto:ehudson () calstate edu>> wrote:

Tread carefully. We have had experiences with university personnel traveling
to China and using "purchased" VPN clients which are malware laden.
We tend to encourage taking a loaner device, stripped down to bare
essentials and no sensitive data. Also there are potential ITAR issues with
encryption.

Ed Hudson, CISM
Director, Information Security
California State University
Office of the Chancellor

401 Golden Shore
Long Beach, CA 90802
Tel 562-951-8431
ehudson () calstate edu<mailto:ehudson () calstate edu>









On 3/3/16, 8:40 AM, "The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv on
behalf of Emily Harris"
<SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU<mailto:SECURITY () listserv educause edu> on
behalf of emharris () VASSAR EDU<mailto:emharris () vassar edu>> wrote:

All:

Vassar has about 40 people taking a trip to China and we are attempting to
advise them on a number of issues, including maintaining a safe and secure
computing posture while abroad.

We are a Google school, and as you know, China blocks access to Google
applications.  I am wondering if anyone on the list has recent experience
traveling to China and using their own institutional VPN.  An article I read
recently indicated that China is cracking down on corporate VPNs and many of
them do not work.  Can anyone speak to experience in this realm?  We are
weighing our options for recommendations to these 40+ people.  Thank you!

--
Emily Harris
Interim Information Security Officer, CIS
Vassar College
845-437-7221



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