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Re: Free Download of Matt Ivester's Book Available Now (until Jan. 30)!


From: "Tonkin, Derek K." <Derek_Tonkin () BAYLOR EDU>
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 09:37:21 -0600

I apologize in advance for continuing this thread but I feel there is a meaningful discussion to be had here.

First a few points of clarification:
- the book is normally $9.99 for the Kindle version (the paperback is $12.78 at Amazon and Barnes & Noble, it is not 
available for Nook or in any other ePub format)
- the book is being offered for free by a partnership between Intel and the Stanford Student Association

For those of you objecting to/upset by this, is it because:
- you do not think author's writing books on the topic of protecting privacy should sell them through Amazon or anyone 
else who collects user data during the purchase process
- you do not like the use of the word free and would have had no objection had the wording been different (if so how)
- something else completely

Thank you for any feedback you send,
Derek

-----Original Message-----
From: The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU] On Behalf Of Solem, 
Vik P.
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 8:53 AM
To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU
Subject: Re: [SECURITY] Free Download of Matt Ivester's Book Available Now (until Jan. 30)!

It's not free at all.  If it were free then you would be permitted to download it without needing to sign up or have an 
account. (or have cookies enabled ...)

Many companies continue to train people to give away their information as if it is meaningless.  If you choose to 
download this book then there is a price.  As with all purchases the PRICE has a different VALUE to each person.  
$1,000 means more to some and less to others.  Just like money, purchasing habits & contact information mean more to 
some and less to others.

Calling it free is simple misleading.

The price is information about the purchaser.  For a book honoring Data Privacy, that sounds ironic to me.

-Vik

Vik Solem, CISSP, Sr. Applications Risk Consultant Tufts University, Information Security, vik.solem () tufts edu / 
617-627-4326 InfoSec Team: information_security () tufts edu / 617-627-6070



On Jan 27, 2012, at 14:21 , John Ladwig wrote:

And, you can't download the free book without logging in to Amazon.   And, near as I can tell, it's Kindle- or 
Kindle-apps-only.

In honor of Data Privacy Day.  

The irony, it drips.

  -jml

-----Original Message-----
From: The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU] On Behalf Of Valerie Vogel
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 12:34 PM
To: The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv; John Ladwig
Subject: [SECURITY] Free Download of Matt Ivester's Book Available Now (until Jan. 30)!

Starting today (through January 30), you can download Matt Ivester's book - "lol...OMG! What Every Student Needs to 
Know About Online Reputation Management, Digital Citizenship, and Cyberbullying" - for free from Amazon in honor of 
Data Privacy Day:
http://www.lolomgbook.com/#!vstc5=ebook

Matt Ivester will also be joining us for a special EDUCAUSE Policy 
webinar next Monday, January 30, 1-2 pm EST. 
http://www.educause.edu/policy/dataprivacy

We hope you'll have a chance to read the book and join us for a lively discussion on Monday!
Thanks,
Valerie
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