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Re: Deepfreeze on vm's?


From: Christopher R Webber <christopher.webber () UCR EDU>
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 20:21:25 +0000

I was under the impression that there was a way to essentially destroy the vm on log off so that every time you logged 
on you got a fresh vm.

-- cwebber

On Dec 7, 2011, at 12:15, "Brandon Payne" <payneb () SVCC EDU<mailto:payneb () SVCC EDU>> wrote:

Yes, I understand its as easy as deleting the problematic VM and a few minutes later the replica master starts 
provisioning a new VM; Getting it back up and running in a matter of minutes.

However, Student/Faculty users will likely be Local Administrators (allowing the use of installing student book 
resource cd's, old legacy software that requires admin to run, etc.), therefore the use of Deepfreeze has helped 
tremendously. The idea of having Deepfreeze on the VM and having the VM reboot on logoff gives a calming feeling.

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Brandon Payne
Technical Support Specialist
Information Services
Sauk Valley Community College


On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 5:14 PM, SCHALIP, MICHAEL <mschalip () cnm edu<mailto:mschalip () cnm edu>> wrote:
Agreed.......or, couldn't you just reprovision a new image on the fly?

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Subject: Re: [SECURITY] Deepfreeze on vm's?

On 12/06/2011 06:00 PM, Brandon Payne wrote:
We are looking into VDI for all our computer labs. VMware View to be
exact with WYSE P20 Zero Clients. Roughly about 300 or more vm's for all the labs.

From a virtual standpoint - do you see the need for Faronics
Deepfreeze on all computer lab vm's? Currently we are using Deepfreeze
on our desktops in all labs and has worked out great. For this
situation, I'm not interested in the security implications of why
Deepfreeze is bad, just if its recommended in a virtual environment.

What are you doing in situations if a user profile gets hosed up with
malware in this vm enviroment?

Why wouldn't you use the native snapshotting facilities that VMWare provides?  The main feature that deepfreeze 
delivers in the physical world is snapshotting and rollback, and that's a feature that VMWare delivers out of the box.

Cheers,
Mike Lococo

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