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Re: A "physical security" question - "cameras" versus "boots on the ground" - best practices
From: David Treble <dtreble () CC UMANITOBA CA>
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 14:19:15 -0500
I agree with the others on the need for both cameras and "boots". We have close to 500 cameras that are primarily used for investigation, with some monitoring of active situations when applicable. We also implement the blue call boxes and red emerg. call boxes in hallways and phones in all classrooms. We are also in the process of testing a desktop client called "AlertUS". Not related to CCTV, but To follow up on Eric's comment. A few months backs, several administrators and staff attended an excellent 2 day session with a leading expert in Crisis Response and Violence Threat Assessment. The speaker commented that they like to see IT involvement in these discussions and training because a lot of physical threats start to manifest in email, IM and social networks. The organization is Canadian based, but the speaker/trainer has worked with Secret Service and FBI and may take bookings for US Colleges and Universities. Unfortunately the contact email is bouncing, but I called and left a message asking for a current email and whether they offer the training for US Universities and Colleges. http://www.cctatr.com/threat_assess.htm You may find the following documents useful in getting Administrators talking about the issue, particularly the Protocol for Dealing with High-Risk Student Behaviors. http://www.cctatr.com/articles.htm +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ David Treble IT Security Coordinator E3-640 EITC University of Manitoba dtreble () cc umanitoba ca -- 204.474.8340 Follow @uminfosec on Twitter Ask me about the Infosec Mailing List! +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ On 11-04-27 11:57 AM, Schmidt, Eric Ward wrote:
Michael, An inexpensive but far reaching option for this type of scenario also came from the VA Tech incident - staff and faculty awareness training. The training is called Active Shooter Awareness Training and it's analogous to the awareness training we all know for fire - stop, drop, and roll. This awareness training provides staff and faculty various things to consider if you're on campus and you think you hear gun shots. Eric Schmidt Sent from my iPhone On Apr 27, 2011, at 12:26, "SCHALIP, MICHAEL" <mschalip () CNM EDU> wrote:Hi folks..... Sorry if this is the wrong "group", but - I need some advice..... We're struggling with a debate on physical security measures. Following the Virginia Tech incident - our execs decided that we had to respond with increased security measures. At some point - the decision was made that we needed to explore "security cameras". Next thing we knew - there was a contractor engaged, cameras were installed at one campus (we have 6 across the metro area!), and now - the questions are finally being asked - "Are we doing the right thing...??" Putting in cameras is fine - but then folks are trying to figure out "....who's going to be watching the camera feed?" The other question that was asked was, "What is more of a deterrent - a security camera - or taking the cost of 30 cameras and hiring another pair of boots to walk around??" So - I'm asking all of you: What kind of physical security is preferred? What kind of security measures are used in higher education to provide a reasonable level of security? Are folks using more "technology" - or more "warm bodies"?? Looking forward to your wisdom..... Thanks, Michael -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
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- Re: A "physical security" question - "cameras" versus "boots on the ground" - best practices Joel Rosenblatt (Apr 27)
- Re: A "physical security" question - "cameras" versus "boots on the ground" - best practices Valdis Kletnieks (Apr 27)
- Re: A "physical security" question - "cameras" versus "boots on the ground" - best practices Schmidt, Eric Ward (Apr 27)
- Re: A "physical security" question - "cameras" versus "boots on the ground" - best practices Ben Woelk (Apr 27)
- Re: A "physical security" question - "cameras" versus "boots on the ground" - best practices Arthur, Matt (Apr 27)
- Re: A "physical security" question - "cameras" versus "boots on the ground" - best practices randy marchany (Apr 27)
- Re: A "physical security" question - "cameras" versus "boots on the ground" - best practices Paul Kendall (Apr 27)
- Re: A "physical security" question - "cameras" versus "boots on the ground" - best practices David Escalante (Apr 27)
- Re: A "physical security" question - "cameras" versus "boots on the ground" - best practices Ben Woelk (Apr 27)
- Re: A "physical security" question - "cameras" versus "boots on the ground" - best practices David Treble (Apr 27)
- Re: A "physical security" question - "cameras" versus "boots on the gr Dexter Caldwell (Apr 27)
- Re: A "physical security" question - "cameras" versus "boots on the ground" - best practices Joe St Sauver (Apr 27)