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Re: Inbound Email Policy & PCIDSS


From: Joel Rosenblatt <joel () COLUMBIA EDU>
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:21:22 -0500

No .. it would be a really good thing .. and it should also cover PII and FERPA - but this is a CYA risk reduction 
clause .. just in case the employee was out
the day doing the right thing was taught :-)

Joel

--On Thursday, November 19, 2009 11:16 AM -0600 John Ladwig <John.Ladwig () csu mnscu edu> wrote:

This is all well and good from a strict liability standpoint, but would it be such a bad thing to  have an internal 
policy (or training activity) such that
if a staff member comes across a PAN in email, they learn/know that they should delete the message ASAP and ask IT to 
attempt to eradicate it?

A lot of the policy focus I've seen in PCI is actually business-facing, not IT-facing.  That said, IANAQSA.

   -jml

Joel Rosenblatt <joel () COLUMBIA EDU> 2009-11-19 10:59 >>>
This is the same wording as a common carrier would have about data on their network - it goes back to the argument that the 
phone company used - "we are not
responsible for the bank robbery just because the bad guys used the telephone to plan it"

Joel

--On Thursday, November 19, 2009 9:28 AM -0700 Bob Bayn <bob.bayn () USU EDU> wrote:

Our draft Information Security policy says "USU does not accept liability for PSI that is transmitted through, or 
stored on, IT Resources by the end user for
non-university related purposes."

Bob Bayn        (435)797-2396      Security Team coordinator
  Stop by the "Security Bunker" in SER 301 to see our network
  visualizers showing the continual attacks by outsiders.
Office of Information Technology   at  Utah State University
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Subject: Re: [SECURITY] Inbound Email Policy & PCIDSS

It doesn't seem feasible to me to write a policy about inbound CC#'s and really expect that to stop people from sending you 
CC#'s. I'm not saying you
shouldn't do it, but unless you have a technical control in place that refuses CC#'s sent to your email system you're going 
to have CC#'s in your email
system. Very little of it may be orders placed via email, ie sent to your "merchants" on campus. However, you will have 
students getting CC#'s from their
parents, faculty and staff sending CC#'s to their spouses, and variations on that general theme. Are you really 
responsible for these as a merchant? That
doesn't really make sense to me. But I am not a QSA or an ASV or an expert on PCI.

Zach

--

Zach Jansen
Information Security Officer
Calvin College



Joel Rosenblatt, Manager Network & Computer Security
Columbia Information Security Office (CISO)
Columbia University, 612 W 115th Street, NY, NY 10025 / 212 854 3033
http://www.columbia.edu/~joel





Joel Rosenblatt, Manager Network & Computer Security
Columbia Information Security Office (CISO)
Columbia University, 612 W 115th Street, NY, NY 10025 / 212 854 3033
http://www.columbia.edu/~joel

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