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Re: Gmail for students and IMAP
From: Joel Rosenblatt <joel () COLUMBIA EDU>
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:18:18 -0400
Hi Jeff, Actually, you bring up an interesting question. The reason that I get a micky.mouse () gmail com address and do it using TOR is because I don't want anyone to easily trace it back to me - so a blanket subpoena for anyone who mentions "marijuana" or, more likely, "bomb" in a mail message going through Google would not yield a lot of easily identifiable material - but when you have large population of gmail accounts easily tied to real identities, it may become much more attractive to go on wholesale fishing expeditions. Just because your paranoid, doesn't mean they're NOT after you :-) My (paranoid) 2 cents. Joel --On Wednesday, July 29, 2009 12:24 PM -0400 "Jeffrey I. Schiller" <jis () mit edu> wrote:
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 10:17:15AM -0400, Joel Rosenblatt wrote:I have a question - has anyone had to do a "data discovery subpoena" for a student that has their email outsourced? What was the process and how much cooperation did you get from the vendor?A more interesting question is what happens when Google is served a subpoena with wording like "All E-mail for students of University X where the word 'marijuana' is found in a mail message. Also, do not inform anyone of the existence of this subpoena, including the University administration." Presumably if they choose to fight such a subpoena, it will be on their nickel, as they cannot alert you to the existence of such a subpoena, so cannot pass on the costs. At some point it is just easier for them to just pass on the information... and given their powerful search engine technology, it should be pretty easy for them to do this. -Jeff - -- ======================================================================== Jeffrey I. Schiller MIT Network Manager Information Services and Technology Massachusetts Institute of Technology 77 Massachusetts Avenue Room W92-190 Cambridge, MA 02139-4307 617.253.0161 - Voice jis () mit edu ======================================================================== -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFKcHe/8CBzV/QUlSsRAvbcAJ4vhOoR/s3oI2El2tnPv5f4eilb6ACdG5dB 1szJeyNqubOprst97AS38c8= =j1Ko -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Joel Rosenblatt, Manager Network & Computer Security Columbia Information Security Office (CISO) Columbia University, 612 W 115th Street, NY, NY 10025 / 212 854 3033 http://www.columbia.edu/~joel
Current thread:
- Re: Gmail for students and IMAP, (continued)
- Re: Gmail for students and IMAP Dennis Meharchand (Jul 29)
- Re: Gmail for students and IMAP Sarazen, Daniel (Jul 29)
- Re: Gmail for students and IMAP Stanclift, Michael (Jul 29)
- Re: Gmail for students and IMAP James M. Dutcher - Assoc. VP IS/IT & CIO (Jul 29)
- Re: Gmail for students and IMAP Joel Rosenblatt (Jul 29)
- Re: Gmail for students and IMAP Adam Nave (Jul 29)
- Re: Gmail for students and IMAP Vik Solem (Jul 29)
- Re: Gmail for students and IMAP Dergenski, Todd A. (Jul 29)
- Re: Gmail for students and IMAP Jeffrey I. Schiller (Jul 29)
- Re: Gmail for students and IMAP Valdis Kletnieks (Jul 29)
- Re: Gmail for students and IMAP Joel Rosenblatt (Jul 29)
- Re: Gmail for students and IMAP Greg Francis (Jul 29)
- Re: Gmail for students and IMAP Sauvigne, Craig M (Jul 29)
- Re: Gmail for students and IMAP Valdis Kletnieks (Jul 29)
- Re: Gmail for students and IMAP Jesse Thompson (Jul 29)
- Re: Gmail for students and IMAP James M. Dutcher - Assoc of IS/IT & CIO (Jul 29)
- Re: Gmail for students and IMAP Tonkin, Derek K. (Jul 29)
- Re: Gmail for students and IMAP James M. Dutcher - Assoc of IS/IT & CIO (Jul 29)
- Re: Gmail for students and IMAP Zach Jansen (Jul 29)
- Re: Gmail for students and IMAP Morrow Long (Jul 29)
- Re: Gmail for students and IMAP Paul Keser (Jul 29)
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