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Re: Authentication of remote users


From: Cal Frye <cjf () CALFRYE COM>
Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 17:00:30 -0500

Hunt,Keith A wrote:
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From: Cal Frye [mailto:cjf () CALFRYE COM]
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Subject: Re: [SECURITY] Authentication of remote users

Gary Flynn wrote:

Lets say you have a user that:

1) forgot their password
2) forgot their answers to their secret question(s)
3) is traveling making visiting the helpdesk impossible

Lets also say asking for last four digits of SSN is
not allowed.

How do you authenticate the identity of the user and
allow them to change their password?


Here we require they fax (or sometimes an email will do) a photocopy of
their ID card, which does not itself contain SSN data, but our internal
ID number instead.

I have never quite understood the thinking behind this approach,
though I have seen a number of folks propose it.

What if someone steals my ID card, or I lose it and someone else
finds it?

How does the possession of such a credential prove anything about
the identity of the person who holds it?

I might ask the same regarding the "secret questions" approach. Many
folks can easily determine my mother's maiden name, or my favorite
color, etc.

But as the number of copies of a student's ID is a low finite number (in
most cases) holding the card itself reduces the opportunity for fraud
considerably.

As for other solutions being discussed, our help desk is mainly manned
by student workers, who probably ought not to have access to the kinds
of personal data being discussed. Asking to "see" the photo ID permits
them to launch the password reset process without having to call a staff
member to the phone. I don't think it's more or less reasonable than the
"secret question" approach our self-service system uses.

As time goes by, more and more of our users have set up their secret
questions, and the self-service approach has already measurably reduced
the load on the help desk.

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Regards,
-- Cal Frye, Network Administrator, Oberlin College

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"No job is so simple that it can't be done wrong."

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