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Re: Has anyone looked at digital archiving?
From: Alan Amesbury <amesbury () OITSEC UMN EDU>
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 16:53:21 -0500
James H Moore wrote:
A very talented systems administrator with very good security knowledge, named Chris asked me a question about digital archiving, and after a conversation, we had more questions than answers.
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Then we talk about media. The temptation is to put it on CDRs or writable DVDs and store them well. I ask about 8 inch floppies. That technology isn't 40 years old, but I don't have anything to read them with. Will the same happen to CDs and DVDs in 40 years? People used to go through mag tape refreshes every few years. But as you sum up the archiving disks that you might burn, year upon year, after a number of years, just converting and retiring media could become a fulltime job. Then we realize that we are talking about things like Word 2003 and Adobe 7. What will Word 2046 look like? Will it read Word 2003 documents? Will Internet Explorer 23 still be patched with almost every Microsoft patch cycle? Oops, got off of the subject. You get the picture. Word 2003 seems to go back to Word 95. But even then you get messages like "Formatting may be lost" when it wants to convert on opening. And it doesn't say anything about Word 6, the predecessor to Word 95. So where does integrity and availability go in archiving for 40 years? Has anyone looked at this type of issue from a practical standpoint? Any solutions?
At the "CISO Q&A with Dark Tangent" at DEFCON last year, someone asked pretty much the same question. Merck's CISO was one of the panelists. She said that Merck, like any pharmaceutical company, has to follow stringent protocols regarding the storage and archiving of data relating to a number of aspects of their business. While their archival needs are a bit longer (I think 100+ years was the number used), the idea is the same. They considered DVDs, CD-Rs, magtape, etc., among many storage formats. After much analysis, they settled on microfiche stored in old salt mines as their long-term storage method. Nothing else was reliable enough. I've NO idea how they search it, but presumably they have a really good index. :-\ -- Alan Amesbury University of Minnesota
Current thread:
- Has anyone looked at digital archiving? James H Moore (Apr 12)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: Has anyone looked at digital archiving? Alan Amesbury (Apr 12)
- Re: Has anyone looked at digital archiving? stanislav shalunov (Apr 12)
- Re: Has anyone looked at digital archiving? stanislav shalunov (Apr 12)
- Re: Has anyone looked at digital archiving? Graham Toal (Apr 13)
- Re: Has anyone looked at digital archiving? Graham Toal (Apr 13)
- Re: Has anyone looked at digital archiving? Parker, Ron (Apr 13)
- Re: Has anyone looked at digital archiving? Stewart, Ian (Apr 13)
- Re: Has anyone looked at digital archiving? David Gillett (Apr 13)
- Re: Has anyone looked at digital archiving? stanislav shalunov (Apr 13)
- Re: Has anyone looked at digital archiving? Cal Frye (Apr 13)
- Re: Has anyone looked at digital archiving? Graham Toal (Apr 13)
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