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Re: China blocking DNS servers


From: Clyde Hoadley <hoadleyc () MSCD EDU>
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 13:46:52 -0700

This may, or may not, be related...

This was on the SANS Internet Storm Center (http://isc.incidents.org/)
web site Fri. Jan 2.

>
>According to Email Security Company Postini, IP addresses in the 218.107.x.x
>class are in the top 10 for both spam and directory harvest attacks. 8 of the
>top 10 spam sources and 4 of the top 10 DHA sources came from this class for
>December 31 and January 1. These IP's are registered to China Netcom and have
>a hostname "host.better-delivery.com". It looks like these ip's may be good
>candidates to block.
>
>www.postini.com/stats

--Clyde

Pete Hoffswell wrote:
The report is now about a year old.

In August 2003 it looks like it got slashdotted.  At the time, the real-time reporter may or may not have been working 
very well to begin with.

http://slashdot.org/articles/02/08/31/0557256.shtml?tid=153

I have an associate that manages connectivity to a factory in China via vpn, with a split tunnel.  He has no complaints 
of blocked sites.  I wonder if they have a different ruleset for foreign companies doing business out there.

It would be interested to know if anyone else knows of a real-time filter-checker for china, or other countries, for 
that matter.  My googlinig has not been productive.

Cheers!

- pete



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liudvikas.bukys () ROCHESTER EDU 01/06/04 08:58AM >>>

My university and a number of others are apparently having
some DNS server traffic blocked by some Chinese ISPs.

There is an excellent summary of the situation at:
  <http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/filtering/china/>
(this includes a real-time test interface that unfortunately,
at the moment, seems to classify all results as "indeterminate")
and there are related recent articles at:
  <http://www.mail-archive.com/ip () v2 listbox com/msg00290.html>
  <http://www.politechbot.com/pipermail/politech/2003-November/000212.html>

It was noticed here because there were some complaints from
potential Chinese applicants, followed by a remarkably low number
of Chinese applicants on a particular deadline.  For any of our
institutions seeking Chinese applicants, this is a business-critical
outage.


For the workgroups:

* One technical countermeasure is to beef up secondary DNS servers,
  particularly with high-volume DNS services (Akamai or UltraDNS?)
  that may be less likely to be blocked.  Has anyone looked into
  this angle?

* (Short-term measures could include migrating DNS servers to
  unblocked IP addresses -- an annoying and messy shell game.)

* Are the EDUCAUSE .edu operators aware of this issue?
  Any recommendations from them?  (How does one contact them?)

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