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Re: Unnamed Acquirer Processor Breach Timeline


From: "DAIL, WILLARD A" <ADAIL () sunocoinc com>
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 10:23:43 -0500


There is room of an all-day discussion around online merchants, but indirectly you do bring up the point that if the 
issuer knows a card has been compromised and fails to act, does the issuer bear any liability for downstream fraud to 
the merchants, because deactivating the card would have prevented the fraud in most cases (the clerk manually forcing 
approval is the exception).
 
I would think the processing agreement and civil law or Section 5, FTC might not see eye-to-eye here.

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From: dataloss-bounces () datalossdb org on behalf of Tom Mahoney
Sent: Thu 2/26/2009 5:22 PM
To: dataloss () datalossdb org
Subject: Re: [Dataloss] Unnamed Acquirer Processor Breach Timeline



Am I missing something or are Willard and the rest forgetting an
important part of this 'potential' breach?  Given that there is no
track data involved, it would seem that on-line merchants are at the
most risk here because of chargeback rights.

As the Pennsylvania Credit Union Association so aptly put it, "Since
track data was not compromised, we are not suggesting that you block
and transfer these compromised accounts. Chargeback rights should
exist for all Card Not Present transactions simply by the cardholder
asserting a dispute for the unauthorized transactions.

In other words, issuers shouldn't worry about preemptive card
replacement; they can stick it to the on-line merchants.  Of course
the issuers will gain a few dollars in chargeback fees along the way
and the e-Commerce merchant will loose their product and shipping and
pay the fine for being another victim of fraud.  They are, after all,
the path of least resistance for the issuers.

Tom Mahoney, Founder & Director (and resident cynic)
Over 3800 Merchants united to protect themselves
http://www.merchant911.org <http://www.merchant911.org/> 


At 11:31 AM -0500 2/26/09,  DAIL, WILLARD A typed out:

An important distinction, I think is issuing bank vs. acquiring bank.
Imagine the Visa interchange as a cloud in the middle of a page.  To the
right are the issuing banks.  They carry all of the liability for fraud
and their customers are the consumer, who uses the credit card.  They
make their money in interest and fees associated with the consumer's use
of the card.

To the left of the cloud is the acquiring bank.  Their customers are
merchants, who they sign up to accept credit cards.  These banks make
their money from transaction fees levied on the merchant.  Sometimes, an
entity can be both an issuer, an acquirer (or a gateway, service
provider, or any number of functional designations), but not always.


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