Re: Fully Automated CONOPs Exercise

[Dave Aitel via Dailydave <dailydave () lists aitelfoundation org>]

I mean, the goal of the question is to start putting some meat on the idea
of what "harm" is and how that is reflected both from a policy and
technical perspective. But also: It's useful to put some real definitions
around what is required to make people comfortable with fully-automated
techniques.

I don't think the idea that we are going to come up with and enforce norms
is as useful as figuring out what the norms really are sometimes, perhaps.

-dave


On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 12:39 AM Dave Dittrich <dave.dittrich () gmail com>
wrote:

> Did any of them mention international humanitarian law, specifically
> discrimination, respecting territory of neutral ("green") actors and
> their infrastructure, and avoiding harm to neutral third parties and
> non-combatants? The problem with most worms is the inability to
> accurately discriminate targets and resulting harm. This is an area
> where technical experts need to be balanced with operators and policy
> makers to ensure that non-technical operators and policy makers fully
> understand what it is that they are talking about. And where use of
> *all* of the levers of sovereign power, in partnership with other
> nations, to establish and enforce norms, is crucial. Should we really
> consider unconstrained damage and instantaneous global chaos as "fun?"
> ;)
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 8:45 PM Dave Aitel via Dailydave
> <dailydave () lists aitelfoundation org> wrote:
> > So one of my new fav questions to ask policy teams is what they would do
> if they were told to switch their offensive team entirely to worms. Nothing
> else. Just worms. What needs to change to make that happen - from op tempo
> to supply chain to personnel to policy and technological investment.
> > And how would their defensive team need to change strategically if they
> were facing such an offensive team.
> > It's a fun thing to see people wrap their minds around. :)
> >
> > Also, if you missed it, yesterday's CYBER HOT TAKES are here:
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzcmfIgvj7A&t=2s&ab_channel=DaveAitel
> >
> > -dave
> >
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