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Re: Celebrations


From: Alex McGeorge <alexm () immunityinc com>
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2018 12:47:02 -0400

Hi All,

We've been talking a lot internally about substance abuse and addiction
within the larger infosec community. Our having a no-drinks ticket
option (contact admin@ for details) is a result of these conversations.
We've also talked about hosting an Alcoholics Anonymous and Narcotics
Anonymous (AA & NA) meeting during the conference. To that end, we've
reserved a conference room and will provide refreshments for such a
meeting. We have not settled on a definite time as of yet but it would
likely be before the welcome reception on Wednesday the 25th or before
the dinner reception on Thursday the 26th.

If you are interested in attending this meeting and have already
registered for the conference or are confident that you will register,
please reply to me directly. I've attached my public key if you would
like to maintain your privacy.

Cheers,
-AlexM

On 03/12/2018 10:49 AM, David Aitel wrote:
drinky1drinky2

So today I'm going over the reports released at Kaspersky's SAS
conference and for some reason the images of people drinking on stage
stuck out at me. I think it's because half my facebook feed, when I
bother to log in to see what the schedule at the local BJJ gym is, is
people in *our community* talking about their recovery from addiction.

I know DefCon has this tradition of drinking on stage too, and GCon did,
of course, as have many other conferences I've been to.

Conferences are partially celebrations. And drinking is part of
celebrating, for a lot of people, but it's always been weird in our
culture because for so long we were all so young (and so overwhelmingly
male). I don't know about you, but it's always seemed insane to me when
people post tweets about how they're drinking to commemorate Barnaby
Jack's death as if that wasn't the very shit that killed him.

INFILTRATE has open bars - basically during the whole conference. But we
also have non-alcoholic cocktails and drinks the whole time and we don't
drink on stage because it's not great for new, younger members of the
community to link technical excellence and addiction. This isn't
"Drunken Master 5: iOS return-to-libc". This is hard stuff now and
spending two days a year talking to the top of the offensive community
about their plans for the year, and what didn't work last year,
sometimes requires a mostly-sober headspace.

Although we don't advertise it heavily, we have a huge uptake this year
in our non-alcohol included INFILTRATE ticket. It's at a small discount
from the main ticket price, but I don't think that's why people are
buying it.

Anyways, it's something to think about while we piece over what we know
and don't know about SLINGSHOT and SOFACY...
-dave




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