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Re: "When you shoot at the king, you best not miss." (Allen)
From: Jeffrey Carr <greylogic.carr () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 09:39:59 -0700
I agree entirely, Allen. The market incentives are huge for a company to discover and report an attack attributed to a nation state, the bar for evidence is negligible, and there's really no way to disprove a claim. Even when someone involved in the attack pops up and says I did it, here's proof, and you're an idiot, that becomes a "disinformation operation" and again, there's no way to disprove that. Jeff
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 21:28:42 -0400 From: Allen <multimode1876 () gmail com> To: Adam Shostack <adam () shostack org> Cc: "dailydave () lists immunityinc com" <dailydave () lists immunityinc com> Subject: Re: [Dailydave] "When you shoot at the king, you best not miss." Message-ID: < CADwYKiY5RYJ5s61QXLf+Hc7ZrgD1LCNbCcXt5qUsN8hv6c8kRA () mail gmail com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" | It's entirely possible that this is a disinformation campaign, or that attribution is hard, and Crowdstrike made a mistake | I'm inclined to believe that while attribution may be hard there are entirely too many market incentives to brand any given attack with one of the nation state animal totems. The fact that attribution is frequently derived from prior intelligence blended with the fact that all of the source data is confidential only lends itself to confirmation bias. A small attribution mistake by one vendor can really snowball. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: < https://lists.immunityinc.com/pipermail/dailydave/attachments/20160616/55ad132a/attachment-0001.html------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Dailydave mailing list Dailydave () lists immunityinc com https://lists.immunityinc.com/mailman/listinfo/dailydave End of Dailydave Digest, Vol 55, Issue 12 *****************************************
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