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Re: Knowledge Transfer


From: Sean Wilson <sean () idiom ca>
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 14:48:56 -0400

I think this is why we are starting to see more workshops at conferences
which is a better format for people to sit down and dig into a topic for a
couple hours. Although this doesn't work for all types of talks or research
it is a step in the right direction.

Unfortunately, I don't think it's something we will see in the bigger cons
as they don't have the same general "marketing" appeal. But they do
generally deal with the fun and practical knowledge...how does 'X' actually
work. Which for a lot of us is why we're here..forever curious.

Sean
PS - Infiltrate should totally have workshops.



On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 11:53 AM, Julio Auto <julio.auto () gmail com> wrote:

Also prompted by (and arguably relevant to) the same point:
https://twitter.com/thegrugq/status/738334152513048576

    Julio Auto


On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 10:40 AM dave aitel <dave () immunityinc com> wrote:

From Spender's recent Keynote <https://grsecurity.net/SSTIC2016.pdf>:
"""
Conferences poor method of knowledge transfer

    Good method of making audience feel “knowledge” transfer

    Accept that it’s basically show-and-tell, that understanding of a
topic requires more than an hour, sometimes with weeks/months/years of
background knowledge

"""


As someone who helps run INFILTRATE <http://infiltratecon.com/> I want
to point out that while I totally agree that conferences can be hard to use
as knowledge transfer mechanisms, that they are getting better. In
particular I want to point people towards this very long piece on how
everything connects together, especially those of you who attended
INFILTRATE:
<http://cybersecpolitics.blogspot.com/2016/05/the-common-thread-fuzzing-bug-triage.html>
http://cybersecpolitics.blogspot.com/2016/05/the-common-thread-fuzzing-bug-triage.html

This is also true of training: I'd love to find a way to offer a
continued education series based on the INFILTRATE classes. And I have
another post coming out to connect more dots from INFILTRATE 2016 shortly.
But Spender is right: Conferences, a mainstay of our community, can be too
much about show and tell, and not enough about scientific progress. (That
said, I think INFILTRATE is the best among them in that regards, of course.
:))

And we ARE offering the INFILTRATE training again both in NYC and
(strangely enough!) Columbia MD
<https://twitter.com/Immunityinc/status/738404651712798721>.

-dave





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