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Re: Fwd: [Cryptography] NSA/GCHQ put their heads together to discuss encryption on the net
From: Florent Daigniere <florent.daigniere () trustmatta com>
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 09:50:06 +0200
On Sun, 2015-09-27 at 17:30 -0700, Darkpassenger wrote:
[snip] why all this news coverage ? what was default expected from NSA/GCHQ be doing ? why Civilians are penetrable to Snowden-type news as if unlikely cure for a bad disease just found ? even if they are below average IQ they must have a very basic idea what Spy agencies do . what is this wide across spectrum shock ? WHAT IS THE NEWS here ? i am literally asking honest questions from fellow coders
The scale of it all. Of course, anyone with half a brain knew this could happen... but pre-snowden everyone was assuming that spook operations were targeted. Not because they had to be... but because the cost of doing it otherwise would just be too high... cost/benefit ratio is what is used elsewhere by "rational" people to justify their actions. It turns out that the tech community was wrong all along. They have way deeper pockets than anyone has ever suspected... Here one has to ask, why has so much money been pumped into this (as opposed to fund medical research, build/staff hospitals, ...)? Which adversary are they facing that could justify it? Teens experimenting in their garage? Let me tell you about a world I know a bit... PETs (Privacy Enhancing Technologies): there's been decades of research starting off a model where there is *no* global adversary. Snowden has proven that we have at least an active one! This makes Tor, Freenet and all related technologies obsolete and inadequate as they currently stand. I can't answer for others, but that's why it was news to me. [snip.]
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