Re: The Neutron Star

[Ali-Reza Anghaie <ali () packetknife com>]

On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Jason Syversen
<jason.syversen () gmail com> wrote:
> covers a lot of the IC, DoD, etc. Heck the USG is having trouble figuring
> out how to tell companies when they being spied on, much less sharing
> competitive data from other places.

Exactly - the Government to major industrials communication pathways
generally stop at C-levels. The intel to industrials comms are even
narrower for the US industrial sector as a whole. People can look to
the DIB now and how recent those paths are in US history - they
post-date a lot of the "evidence" already be five to ten years.

This idea that US intel is systematically participating in the same
type of state-driven economic and industrial planning as the PLA is
absurd.

On the other hand - a lot of other state actors are entering that fray
and China is (or will soon) find out that ~they~ are the low-hanging
fruit of well developed economic options now. It seems it took China
quite some years of thievery before they are even approaching being
able to use the higher-end bits - likewise they're not the low-hanging
fruit for others. I don't think it will be long before certain Chinese
sectors will be pointing a finger at Myanmar and Argentina for
example.

> That said, if China (and other countries to a lesser extent) don't stop and
> we can't dissuade them,  who knows what will happen. They may decide "if you
> can't beat 'em, join 'em." But that hasn't happened yet.

I'd hope - at the very least - people start thinking what it means to
~compete~.. it's not just about hoarding IP and IP Obesity. It's about
a total brand, services, PR, etc. Agility can be gained beyond just
your core data that has been stolen.

-Ali
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