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Re: Weev's collateral damage.
From: Ali-Reza Anghaie <ali () packetknife com>
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 12:17:51 -0500
Entirely agreed - and while all occupations are at risk for over-criminalization, InfoSec is also at an intersection point with major political narrative. Like many Academics were put at risk right after 9/11 for research that had always been in the public eye. It's worth your time to read the book and blog work of Harvey Silverglate: http://www.harveysilverglate.com/Books/ThreeFeloniesaDay.aspx http://www.harveysilverglate.com/TheSilvergLatest/TFD.aspx Cheers, -Ali On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Dave Aitel <dave () immunityinc com> wrote:
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/11/att-hacker-found-guilty/ So I'm no fan of Weev aka Andrew Auernheimer. The man is seriously disturbed and it's odd to see people support him<https://twitter.com/maradydd/status/271067146145107968> on Twitter. Just as an example, here's some bizarre rape porn I'm fairly sure he and his friends posted about my wife on full disclosure (and to DD before it was moderated - in fact, Weev is the reason moderation is on this list at all): http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/2006-March/043638.html . Here's a post about him torturing some kid "for the lulz": http://crimint.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/deutschland-deutschland-uber-alles-encyclopc3a6dia-dramatica-forums_1294380601283-chrome.png I think it's fair to say the likelihood of Weev having done something that deserves some level of criminal liability is pretty high. That said, this is not it. Keep in mind the data Weev collected was email addresses and names. Nothing sensitive in the slightest. Everything they collected was essentially sent in cleartext over the Internet at some point. It's obvious to anyone with any technical background that the case the FBI brought against him is a travesty, and the fact that they won is even more insane. It's this sort of thing that makes it obvious the DHS doesn't understand the Internet, and shouldn't be given more control over it, which is what John McCain has been saying for the last year or so. Cases like this make everyone look bad - and if they manage to make it stick, the collateral damage is all of us. -dave -- INFILTRATE - the world's best offensive information security conference. April 2013 in Miami Beachwww.infiltratecon.com _______________________________________________ Dailydave mailing list Dailydave () lists immunityinc com https://lists.immunityinc.com/mailman/listinfo/dailydave
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- Re: Weev's collateral damage. Ali-Reza Anghaie (Nov 21)
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