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Re: Hacking in the Republican Debate


From: Jeffrey Walton <noloader () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 12:04:49 -0500

Sorry about the top post - just a general comment.

Joel Brenner's "America the Vulnerable: Inside the New Threat Matrix
of Digital Espionage, Crime, and Warfare" is infuriating and
saddening. It does not have to be th US - nearly any country will do.

Jeff

On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Dave Aitel <dave () immunityinc com> wrote:
HARWOOD: Governor Romney, was it a mistake for Governor Schwarzenegger to
hire the firm in China to build portions of that bridge?

ROMNEY: Well, that's a -- a long answer to that, because what China is doing
is not playing fairly by the rules that exist in our -- in the WTO and the
world. China is, on almost every dimension, cheating. And we've got to
recognize that. It is good for America...

(APPLAUSE)

ROMNEY: It is good for America to have free trade. It is good for us to be
able to send our goods and services around the word and vice versa.

HARWOOD: So a good decision to build the bridge over there?

ROMNEY: That is normally a good thing. But China is playing by different
rules. One, they are stealing intellectual property. Number two, they're
hacking into our computer systems, both government and corporate. And they
are stealing, by virtue of that as well, from us.

And finally, they are manipulating their currency, and by doing so, holding
down the price of Chinese goods, and making sure their products are
artificially low-priced. It's predatory pricing, it's killing jobs in
America.

If I'm president of the United States, I'm making it very clear, I love free
trade. I want to open markets to free trade. But I will crack down on
cheaters like China. They simply cannot continue to steal our jobs.

(APPLAUSE)

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GINGRICH: Well, there are two things here. And let me say in advance that I
would yield in part to Governor Huntsman, because he speaks fluent Chinese,
he has worked in China, and he's been the ambassador. And I'd be curious to
get his reaction.

But there are two different parts here. The problem with building the bridge
is simple. What -- what is it about American regulations, American taxation,
American labor cost and attitudes that makes it cheaper to go to China than
to go to the United States? Now, we...

(APPLAUSE)

... first of all, you've got to decide, how are we going to be more
competitive and how are we going to be the lowest cost? And there's a new
Boston consultant (ph) that says, by 2015, South Carolina and Alabama will
be cheaper than the Chinese coastal provinces to manufacturing.

Second, in terms of dealing with China strategically, I think we're going to
have to find ways to dramatically raise the pain level for the Chinese
cheating, both in the hacking side, but also on the stealing and
intellectual property side. And I don't think anybody today has a
particularly good strategy for doing that.

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