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Re: What is a cyber-range?
From: "Dobbins, Roland" <rdobbins () arbor net>
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 02:24:26 +0000
On Jul 7, 2011, at 6:40 AM, J.A. Terranson wrote:
These old virtual routing platforms are cheap, easy to find on ebay or ebay-like sales arenas, and if stacked in the hundreds could *easily* simulate many hundreds of thousands of routers, while server farms cab be injected at appropriate points to simulate the "local networks" residing on these routers.
What they don't allow one to do is to launch attacks and test their effects on actual, modern, hardware-based routers and layer-3 switches. The viability of software-based Internet edge routers ended 7-8 years ago; any organization still relying on software-based edge routers can be taken down with a trivial DDoS attack, so no stress-testing of such architectures is really required, heh. Also, the use of software-based routers/switches limits the attack bandwidth (bps) and throughput (pps) which can be utilized; this seriously limits the scope of resilience testing with regards to DDoS attacks. On a side note, I've generally found that non-ironic use of the appellation 'cyber-' to be inversely proportional to actual security clue. Therefore, I'd urge the really smart folks at Breakingpoint and other knowledgeable folks to avoid using the term 'cyber-range'; 'attack lab', 'testbed', et. al. are more descriptive and accurate, and don't carry the taint of Big Security hand-waving. ;> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Roland Dobbins <rdobbins () arbor net> // <http://www.arbornetworks.com> The basis of optimism is sheer terror. -- Oscar Wilde _______________________________________________ Dailydave mailing list Dailydave () lists immunityinc com https://lists.immunityinc.com/mailman/listinfo/dailydave
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