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Re: time for my lil opinion poll
From: Chris Anley <chris () ngssoftware com>
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 15:38:08 +0100
Arun Koshy wrote:
A friend from the vuln research arena ( sorry .. no names etc ) told me in a convo a few hours ago that this does not work : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_Leak_Prevention Would like to know the community's opinion about the whole arena .. both public and private responses ( if you can't be public ) are welcome.
Your friend is possibly thinking along these lines: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covert_channel As an example, if the ILP system works solely at the TCP stream level, then a network client or server could pause while transmitting packets, and the host at the other end could measure the pauses. Or you could leak one bit at a time, by establishing connections in odd or even-numbered seconds. Or, since TCP packets can be delivered out of order, if you're sending 'n' packets, you can transmit a number from 1 to n! by re-ordering the packets. In all these examples the TCP stream is identical, but there's additional information the monitoring system is unaware of. Another, more obvious method would be to include the information in any outbound random number, such as a cryptographic session key, TCP ISN, etc. If the information is supposed to be random, how can the monitoring process tell that it isn't? -- E-MAIL DISCLAIMER The information contained in this email and any subsequent correspondence is private, is solely for the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential or privileged information. For those other than the intended recipient(s), any disclosure, copying, distribution, or any other action taken, or omitted to be taken, in reliance on such information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you are not the intended recipient and have received this message in error, please inform the sender and delete this mail and any attachments. The views expressed in this email do not necessarily reflect NGS policy. NGS accepts no liability or responsibility for any onward transmission or use of emails and attachments having left the NGS domain. NGS and NGSSoftware are trading names of Next Generation Security Software Ltd. Registered office address: 52 Throwley Way, Sutton, SM1 4BF with Company Number 04225835 and VAT Number 783096402 _______________________________________________ Dailydave mailing list Dailydave () lists immunitysec com http://lists.immunitysec.com/mailman/listinfo/dailydave
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