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Re: Lap Dances for All
From: dan () geer org
Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2005 14:04:51 -0500
I refer all to the idea of a "recursive auction" wherein for content which cannot be effectively owned the question is instead the control of its spread. In a recursive auction the item is first auctioned to the highest bidder, that is the content is revealed to the highest bidder, but a second auction is immediately started to resell that same content in exactly the same way as the first. In this way, the right to view the content achieves its market value based both on the value of the content, per se, and the value of X seeing it before Y. For X to allow no one to see it requires X to outbid all others at each subsequent auction, which occur at finite intervals. All income comes to the provider of the content except that any holder of the content may also undertake an auction to sell a copy as after receiving that copy his rights are to do with it as he will, including re-sell. Those who work in finance will recognize the glimmer of this idea in the price differential between slow, fast, and blazing market data feeds. The idea comes from Eric Hughes, if I recall correctly, who called it a "digital piracy auction" and dates to somewhere like 1995. See Bob Hettinga's various rants, e.g. [1,2], to whet your appetite. Frankly, vulnerabilities strike me as far, far more interesting fodder for a recursive auction than the latest pop star's euphemistic lust set to "music." --dan [1] http://tedanderson.home.mindspring.com/RecursiveAuctionMarket.txt [2] http://legalminds.lp.findlaw.com/list/cyberia-l/msg42394.html _______________________________________________ Dailydave mailing list Dailydave () lists immunitysec com https://lists.immunitysec.com/mailman/listinfo/dailydave
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