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RE: Your Opinion
From: "Jim Harrison" <Jim () isatools org>
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 12:27:39 -0700
<sarcasm with="dripping"> Yep - Windows Media Player put Real Media out of business while it single-handedly eliminated any media format other than WM, all right... ..and oh, yeh - IE completely squashed the remaining Mozilla-based development efforts. Wait - does anyone remember Unix-based OS's? Windows really wiped them off the face of the Earth, didn't it? </sarcasm> Monoculture or not (silly argument for a single-OS company, wouldn't you say?), if you base your business model on someone else's and they change their model to your detriment, do you blame them, try to partner with them or (gasp) adjust your model to the changing landscape? Oh, wait - because it's Microsoft, the rules are fluid. If MS intentionally limits product features to provide for ISV opportunities (yes, this does happen quite often), they're intentionally restricting user capabilities. OTOH, if MS tries to license or purchase technology or the company that owns it, it's guilty of "monopolism". OTTH, if MS attempts to "reinvent a competitive wheel", it's abusing its monopoly to wipe out the competition. Make up (discover?) your collective mind, willya? The fact of the matter is this - Windows users have made their collective desires clear - "give me protection from myself". Since this product noise is being directed to MS, it makes one wonder if the "competition" is all that worthy. Speaking of those who got rich, any company that opted to license or sell to MS haven't done all that badly, and there were no "Guidos" sent in to force their decisions, either. John-boy is whining - nothing more. -----Original Message----- From: casper () holland sun com [mailto:casper () holland sun com] On Behalf Of Casper.Dik () Sun COM Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 3:20 PM To: Mark Litchfield Cc: bugtraq () securityfocus com; vulnwatch () vulnwatch org; full-disclosure () lists netsys com Subject: Re: Your Opinion
I have heard the comment "It's a huge conflict of interest" for one
company
to provide both an operating platform and a security platform" made by
John
Thompson (CEO Symantec) many times from many different people. See
article
below.
"There goes our business model.", said John Thompson. The Microsoft mono culture has distinct advantages and has made quite a few people rich. But in the end, if Micrsoft does not buy your business but feels it needs to provide a product like your, you're toast. (At least, that part of your business is) Casper All mail to and from this domain is GFI-scanned.
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- Re: Your Opinion Jonathan Glass (GM) (Mar 16)
- RE: Your Opinion Mario Contestabile (Mar 16)
- Re: Your Opinion Crispin Cowan (Mar 16)
- Re: Your Opinion William A. Rowe, Jr. (Mar 16)
- RE: Your Opinion Scott Blake (Mar 16)
- Re: Your Opinion The Fungi (Mar 17)
- Re: Your Opinion Casper . Dik (Mar 17)
- RE: Your Opinion Jim Harrison (Mar 20)
- RE: Your Opinion Jim Harrison (Mar 17)
- RE: Your Opinion Alex Eckelberry (Mar 19)
- Re: Your Opinion Andrew Kramer (Mar 20)
- Re: Your Opinion Forrest J. Cavalier III (Mar 19)
- Re: Your Opinion Paul Stepowski (Mar 20)
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- Re: Your Opinion Neil Dickey (Mar 16)
- Re: Your Opinion Jack Lloyd (Mar 20)
- RE: Your Opinion jay.tomas (Mar 20)
- RE: Your Opinion Jim Harrison (Mar 20)
- RE: Your Opinion Neale Green (Mar 21)