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Re: Cryptome: NSA has real-time access to Hushmail servers
From: mark seiden-via mac <mis () seiden com>
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 17:06:25 -0500
On Dec 26, 2007, at 4:33 PM, Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu wrote:
On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 14:02:18 +0200, Juha-Matti Laurio said:Guardster Team has posted its response on 21st Dec to Cryptome:"We can assure you that we do not cooperate with the NSA or any othergovernment agency anywhere in the world. We invite whomever is making thisstatement to provide proof, rather than making a baseless accusation.Note that if they had been served with an NSL (National Security Letter), they may be legally *required* to lie about it while cooperating. Actually truthfully saying "Yeah, an NSL showed up and we complied" could land themin jail....
not exactly true, i think. the gag order on recipients of a NSL has never required lying, just saying nothing (which is bad enough, given the historical lack of recipient access to judicial
review).i would personally be more suspicious of the providers who had no comment
than the ones who made unequivocal denials.the gag feature is in court at the moment (with a ruling against the govt's position
from as recently as september) according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_security_letter
Current thread:
- RE: Cryptome: NSA has real-time access to Hushmail servers, (continued)
- RE: Cryptome: NSA has real-time access to Hushmail servers Juha-Matti Laurio (Dec 26)
- Re: Cryptome: NSA has real-time access to Hushmail servers Valdis . Kletnieks (Dec 27)
- Re: Cryptome: NSA has real-time access to Hushmail servers Kurt Buff (Dec 27)
- RE: Cryptome: NSA has real-time access to Hushmail servers Kevin Reiter (Dec 31)
- Re: Cryptome: NSA has real-time access to Hushmail servers Seth (Dec 31)
- Re: Cryptome: NSA has real-time access to Hushmail servers Steve Shockley (Dec 27)
- Re: Cryptome: NSA has real-time access to Hushmail servers J. Oquendo (Dec 31)
- RE: Cryptome: NSA has real-time access to Hushmail servers Thor (Hammer of God) (Dec 31)
- RE: Cryptome: NSA has real-time access to Hushmail servers Craig Wright (Dec 31)
- Re: Cryptome: NSA has real-time access to Hushmail servers Rob Thompson (Dec 31)
- Re: Cryptome: NSA has real-time access to Hushmail servers Valdis . Kletnieks (Dec 27)
- Re: Cryptome: NSA has real-time access to Hushmail servers mark seiden-via mac (Dec 31)
- Re: Cryptome: NSA has real-time access to Hushmail servers Jay Hennigan (Dec 31)
- RE: Cryptome: NSA has real-time access to Hushmail servers Juha-Matti Laurio (Dec 26)