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Re: Diebold Global Election Management System (GEMS) Backdoor Account Allows Authenticated Users to Modify Votes
From: Adam Shostack <adam () homeport org>
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 21:56:49 -0400
On Tue, Sep 28, 2004 at 12:01:41PM -0700, David Schwartz wrote: | | > Second, to those of us as above, they provide confidence only to the | > extent that we trust the code being run (which at the least requires | > it to run on our own computers, and preferably is written by us; I'd | > trust code I wrote, even though it might have bugs; I'd trust code | > Bruce wrote, because I know and trust him. I'd trust, to a lesser | > degree, code that Bruce vetted, because I know how hard it is to | > examine code and how easy it is to slip something in that's very hard | > to find.) | | This criticism is not correct. The whole point of cryptographically-secure | voting systems is that you *don't* have to trust the code being run. If your Of course you have to trust code being run. The code could be telling you that it's running some Chaumian scheme for vote counting, and actually be running Diebold code underneath. What? Your visually-crypted reciept didn't verify? Some sort of bug, sorry. In other schemes, other code needs trusting to handle private keys, to distribute the results, etc. And in the end, are people who can't handle a butterfly ballot going to understand and trust crypto? Adam
Current thread:
- RE: Diebold Global Election Management System (GEMS) Backdoor Account Allows Authenticated Users to Modify Votes, (continued)
- Re: Diebold Global Election Management System (GEMS) Backdoor Account Allows Authenticated Users to Modify Votes Jay Hennigan (Sep 22)
- Re: Diebold Global Election Management System (GEMS) Backdoor Account Allows Authenticated Users to Modify Votes Homer (Sep 22)
- Re: Diebold Global Election Management System (GEMS) Backdoor Account Allows Authenticated Users to Modify Votes Rainer Duffner (Sep 22)
- Re: Diebold Global Election Management System (GEMS) Backdoor Account Allows Authenticated Users to Modify Votes Mike Ely (Sep 22)
- Re: Diebold Global Election Management System (GEMS) Backdoor Account Allows Authenticated Users to Modify Votes Claudius Li (Sep 25)
- Re: Diebold Global Election Management System (GEMS) Backdoor Account Allows Authenticated Users to Modify Votes Seth Breidbart (Sep 27)
- RE: Diebold Global Election Management System (GEMS) Backdoor Account Allows Authenticated Users to Modify Votes David Schwartz (Sep 28)
- Re: Diebold Global Election Management System (GEMS) Backdoor Account Allows Authenticated Users to Modify Votes Adam Shostack (Sep 29)
- RE: Diebold Global Election Management System (GEMS) Backdoor Account Allows Authenticated Users to Modify Votes David Schwartz (Sep 29)
- Re: Diebold Global Election Management System (GEMS) Backdoor Account Allows Authenticated Users to Modify Votes Seth Breidbart (Sep 29)
- Re: Diebold Global Election Management System (GEMS) Backdoor Account Allows Authenticated Users to Modify Votes Claudius Li (Sep 25)
- Re: Diebold Global Election Management System (GEMS) Backdoor Account Allows Authenticated Users to Modify Votes Enrique A. Chaparro (Sep 28)
- Re: Diebold Global Election Management System (GEMS) Backdoor Account Allows Authenticated Users to Modify Votes Dana Hudes (Sep 29)
- Re: Diebold Global Election Management System (GEMS) Backdoor Account Allows Authenticated Users to Modify Votes Patrick J. Kobly (Sep 28)